[Newton24b]

alright here is the deal. when it comes to handguns and hunting the following standards are universally applied

180-200 grain bullet at a measured 1000 fps.
largest diameter meplat if using a solid bullet, solids prefered
200-300 grain lead solid/jacketed bullet any velocity over 900 fps

thats the standard from 357 to 44 spcl, 44 magnum, 45 colt. thats the standards that have been pushed but the muzzle energy has never really been brought up.
these bullets ahve the mass to just blow through and not need that much energy, just look at the 255 grain 45 colt bullets.. they do beautiful structural damage. and if they are an expanding bullet, they make a bigger hole.

i can get a compact revolver in 44 special, 45 colt, 44 magnum, 357 and use one of these bullets and have all the fun i want from it. But ironically if i say for example, "lets get a charter or taurus 4 inch barrel compact gun,sight it in and use it for deer) its as iff im proposing the use of a 22 short in a 2 inch snubby to hunt grizzle bear