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Calfed · January 13, 2020, 11:50 AM

When I finally picked up my rifle from my FFL, I went over it carefully. I couldn't find any more markings on it, other than this. Under one of the scope blocks I found "No 1x27". The X digit was drilled through for the scope block.

Bolt body has "damascene"

Muzzle is tight..."0"- on the CMP gauge.

With this new information, I contacted Bob Beach, Griffin and Howe's historian, with this result...

"I regret that I have retired from doing the research and letters of provenance effective the end of 2018. There is a current G&H employee who intends to continue the service but it will take some time to rearrange his present responsibilities and familiarize him with the available documents.
A new Research email account has not yet been set up for him so I will continue to read and respond to inquiries. As you may know there are no original G&H& records prior to 1970 except for those rifles sold through Abercrombie & Fitch which owned G&H from 1930 until 1976 and sold many G&H rifles as both new and used guns. I checked all of the possible G&H serials numbers in the A&F records that were in the form 1x27 and there were four possibilities, but each does not seem to describe your rifle.

No. 1127 is built on a Winc. M54 action

No. 1627 has a 26 inch barrel

No. 1827 is a Winc. model 70 in .270 caliber

No. 1927 is in caliber 257 Roberts.

This suggests that your rifle could be:

No. 1027 built in 1930 – 31

No. 1227 built in 1933

No. 1327 built about 1933 - 34

No. 1427 built in 1935

No. 1527 built about 1936

or No. 1727 built in the early 1940’s

These dates are derived from the dates of near number G&H rifles sold at A&F and Michael Petroff’s research. I will check the files at G&H when I next get there which may not happen until November. G&H does have some paperwork for guns that were sent back for shop work post 1970 but these haven’t yet been put into the database that I can check. If I find anything more for you I’ll be sure to get back to you.

Thank you for the inquiry and enjoy owning this piece of undocumented history.

Regards,"

January 13, 2020, 11:50 AM	#9
Calfed Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2007 Posts: 295	When I finally picked up my rifle from my FFL, I went over it carefully. I couldn't find any more markings on it, other than this. Under one of the scope blocks I found "No 1x27". The X digit was drilled through for the scope block. Bolt body has "damascene" Muzzle is tight..."0"- on the CMP gauge. With this new information, I contacted Bob Beach, Griffin and Howe's historian, with this result... "I regret that I have retired from doing the research and letters of provenance effective the end of 2018. There is a current G&H employee who intends to continue the service but it will take some time to rearrange his present responsibilities and familiarize him with the available documents. A new Research email account has not yet been set up for him so I will continue to read and respond to inquiries. As you may know there are no original G&H& records prior to 1970 except for those rifles sold through Abercrombie & Fitch which owned G&H from 1930 until 1976 and sold many G&H rifles as both new and used guns. I checked all of the possible G&H serials numbers in the A&F records that were in the form 1x27 and there were four possibilities, but each does not seem to describe your rifle. No. 1127 is built on a Winc. M54 action No. 1627 has a 26 inch barrel No. 1827 is a Winc. model 70 in .270 caliber No. 1927 is in caliber 257 Roberts. This suggests that your rifle could be: No. 1027 built in 1930 – 31 No. 1227 built in 1933 No. 1327 built about 1933 - 34 No. 1427 built in 1935 No. 1527 built about 1936 or No. 1727 built in the early 1940’s These dates are derived from the dates of near number G&H rifles sold at A&F and Michael Petroff’s research. I will check the files at G&H when I next get there which may not happen until November. G&H does have some paperwork for guns that were sent back for shop work post 1970 but these haven’t yet been put into the database that I can check. If I find anything more for you I’ll be sure to get back to you. Thank you for the inquiry and enjoy owning this piece of undocumented history. Regards,"