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MLeake · December 14, 2010, 09:29 PM

... I'm sure part of that was Moral 4) Get the right officer.

Part of it was probably also that a couple, traveling on the interstate with their dogs, with out-of-state plates, present a different picture than three people sitting at a bus stop, late at night.

I'm not saying that you did anything wrong, and I'm appalled that you were cuffed, and in the cold in your shirt, for as long as you were.

But I can see why they wanted to make the initial check. I think you don't have any issue with that, itself. I don't see how you could have improved the situation, once it started unfolding. You had a combination of wrong place / wrong time (appearance wise, not activity wise), and some really questionable behavior by at least some of the officers involved.

I suspect, though, that my encounter was probably more the norm than yours was. In my case, the trooper was professional, courteous, and as pleasant as one could reasonably expect in the situation.

I think in your case, you should file a complaint.

December 14, 2010, 09:29 PM	#3
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	DiscoRacing... ... I'm sure part of that was Moral 4) Get the right officer. Part of it was probably also that a couple, traveling on the interstate with their dogs, with out-of-state plates, present a different picture than three people sitting at a bus stop, late at night. I'm not saying that you did anything wrong, and I'm appalled that you were cuffed, and in the cold in your shirt, for as long as you were. But I can see why they wanted to make the initial check. I think you don't have any issue with that, itself. I don't see how you could have improved the situation, once it started unfolding. You had a combination of wrong place / wrong time (appearance wise, not activity wise), and some really questionable behavior by at least some of the officers involved. I suspect, though, that my encounter was probably more the norm than yours was. In my case, the trooper was professional, courteous, and as pleasant as one could reasonably expect in the situation. I think in your case, you should file a complaint.