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it IS that mythical "collective right" all the anti-gunners were so sure (pre-Heller) the 2nd Amendment protected.
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Precisely. For those of us who serious students of Soviet and other totalitarian regimes, their legal systems and constitutions recognized practically all the rights we have and cherish. The Soviet constitution guaranteed freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion. Their constitution simply collectivized all those rights with: "Enjoyment by citizens of their rights and freedoms must not be to the detriment of the interests of society or the state, or infringe the rights of other citizens. "
Collectivizing rights logically and historically negates them.
I was a long time admirer and supporter of the ACLU. It is one thing that they supporter Miller, that was just bad, real bad. But their post Heller assertion that the second was still a collective right was utterly obscene, hypocritical and craven.