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Originally Posted by Auila Blanca
If the latter -- where is it in the legislative process?
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They are voting on it this week. Maybe today.
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Originally Posted by ammo.crafter
How did you hear about this secret vote?
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I'm not the one calling it a 'secret' vote. That's a link to Business Insider where I first read the story and thats their headline.
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Originally Posted by rshanneck2002
Weird to say the least .,
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Well, the bill was co-authored by Sens. Levin (D) and McCain (R) so it has bi-partisan support. Lets don't make this too political though considering the forum rules. I say
too, what I should say is
partisan.
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Originally Posted by Bartholomew Roberts
I'd say anytime you have a team consisting of Utah's Republican Senator and the ACLU, you've probably got real cause for concern.
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Well, he's a Democrat from Colorado. However, it doesn't matter to me what party he's in, this is our Constitutional Rights at stake.
In the old L&P form I railed against the Patriot Act and was told my concerns weren't justified and only 'terrorists' had to worry. Well, Goggle Patriot Act abuses, there have been thousands of instances where the FBI has misused the Patriot Act.
Defense bill gives military too much responsibility for detainees by Sen. Mark Udall (D)
the provisions would require the military to dedicate a significant number of personnel to capturing and holding terrorism suspects — in some cases indefinitely — even those apprehended on U.S. soil. And they authorize the military to do so regardless of an accused terrorist’s citizenship, even if he or she is an American captured in a U.S. city.
These provisions are ripe for abuse. I don't think you need a tin-foil hat to see it either.
US citizens declared 'terrorist' and then held incommunicado by the military. Habeas Corpus be damned huh? If its in the name of fighting 'terror'.