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I put the calipers on two Remington shells a very old Kleanbore Express, rolled crimp, that is 2.465 inches long. A later Power Piston Express folded crimp, that is 2.360 inches long.
A Federal HiPower at 2.465" rolled crimp
A Remington Arrow at 2.545" rolled crimp loding 3 1/2Dr 1 1/8 oz shot
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