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Old December 22, 2019, 01:16 PM   #10
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So like I said, nobody makes the "hottest".
There is with 9mm 124gr ball ( probably 115gr also ). NATO spec ammo is usually hotter than commercial and is within safety specs ( I never mentioned SAAMI ) so I figured since the .380 was/is a Police & military rd it would be the same for this cartridge.
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