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Old August 13, 2017, 09:44 AM   #92
OldMarksman
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3rd party judgements.....isn't that what is occurring here?
Yes---with a video recording that shows the entire event, that can be played repeatedly so that we can assess and reassess what happened, from the comfort of our homes when we are not under stress.

And then we can cogitate about it and do it again and again after careful reflection.

Not so for a person at the scene in the real world.

Add to that the extremely high likelihood that someone at the scene would not have even recognized that an altercation had begun until it had been under way, and in the real world, it is unlikely that a potential third party would be able to articulate a basis for a reasonable belief that the use of deadly force had been justified.

We have been over the question time and again on this board, and the best advice has always been to act only when you know the whole story, including that of what led up to the incident.

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[Texas laws being] "About" the same doesn't hold water.
There are two substantive differences:
  1. Texas alone provides for the use of deadly force to recover porperty, if necessary, after a burglary. That would not apply to a third party who had not been requested to do so.
  2. Texas is among a handful of states in which it would be permissible to display a firearm under certain circumstances when the use of deadly force might not be justified. One might be able to draw without being justified in shooting.
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