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FrankenMauser · April 15, 2022, 10:03 AM

That's not true.
Modern models don't all have the same barrel profiles.

Round barrel 1894s all had the same barrel profile at the end of production, but some earlier 'small bore' guns had more taper and smaller diameters at the muzzle.

For the 336 family:
(336, 444, 1895, MX, XLR)
I don't know about .38-55, but everything from .22 Zipper to .338 Federal uses the standard (".30-30") profile.

.44 and .45 caliber barrels have slightly different taper and muzzle diameter, but are based on the .444 profile that was first established in 1963, after testing with the short-lived, but slimmer profile of the 336-44 Magnum.

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And, just because I have an opportunity to beat the horse that should be long-dead by now, but keeps coming up in every corner of the interwebs:
The new model 1895 is *not* a "beefed up" or "larger" action than the 444 or 336.
The 444 is essentially a 336 action with some additional milling (and some claim different heat-treat, but a former Marlin engineer says that is not true). The 1895 was derived from the 444, with even more milling. The new model 1895 in .45-70 and .450 Marlin was the *weakest* action Marlin ever made in the 336 family.

April 15, 2022, 10:03 AM	#17
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	That's not true. Modern models don't all have the same barrel profiles. Round barrel 1894s all had the same barrel profile at the end of production, but some earlier 'small bore' guns had more taper and smaller diameters at the muzzle. For the 336 family: (336, 444, 1895, MX, XLR) I don't know about .38-55, but everything from .22 Zipper to .338 Federal uses the standard (".30-30") profile. .44 and .45 caliber barrels have slightly different taper and muzzle diameter, but are based on the .444 profile that was first established in 1963, after testing with the short-lived, but slimmer profile of the 336-44 Magnum. - And, just because I have an opportunity to beat the horse that should be long-dead by now, but keeps coming up in every corner of the interwebs: The new model 1895 is not a "beefed up" or "larger" action than the 444 or 336. The 444 is essentially a 336 action with some additional milling (and some claim different heat-treat, but a former Marlin engineer says that is not true). The 1895 was derived from the 444, with even more milling. The new model 1895 in .45-70 and .450 Marlin was the weakest action Marlin ever made in the 336 family. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.