[keithdog]

Ok, one of the things I am also going to try is suspenders. I work for a fire equipment company and we supply fire departments everything they need. We have heavy duty suspenders. That just might help. My main issue from my back according to two doctors is my repetitive motion and lifting at work. So I am taking notice of exactly how I perform my duties and trying to change it up a bit. Also going to start taking fish oil suppliiments as was suggested. I have other health related issues those can help with. Going to purchase a quality gun belt as well. Loose some weight and exercises for the back, and have a new mattress on the way. AND, for those of you who are saying that you are no doctor but....just remember, sometimes common sense and real life experience does far more than a fancy degree hung in a frame.