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Old November 21, 2013, 04:04 PM   #37
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How about if I find myself ...
There are an infinite number of marginally possible "what if" scenarios. To use them as the basis of a point of logic is - classically - called "hand waving" or a form of sophistry. It's as easy to imagine a counter example, the point which would be "what is far more likely and and a better basis for analysis?"

We could take the shooting at the Westfield mall in Kenya recently ... a dozen or so terrorists involved. Certainly that could be "a case" for carrying multiple 33-round magazines every time I go to the mall. I think it makes more sense in that unlikely case (which actually happened) to want/need 4/5 33 rounds magazines, than worrying about magazines bursting open (and therefore basing my skill set around that unlikely failure).

In the case you describe, why do you especially worry about the very low possibility of a magazine "bursting apart"? Do you experience magazines bursting apart a lot? I don't, I haven't ever even once, and I often train on hard-surface police ranges made of concrete or hardwood. The worst I've experienced is a couple of rounds popping out in some cases ... no bursting open or destroyed magazines.

Sooo - with due respect - basing a training regimen (and techniques adopted) upon low-probability equipment failures, occurring within low-probability events ... not sure that this is the best way to argue your point. At the very least, you haven't demonstrated a clear advantage for retaining vs. letting them drop.

Will I be able to spontaneously diagnose that my trigger felt “mushy” instead of “click” or will I simply diagnose that my pistol didn’t fire when I pressed the trigger?
I don't know how to say this without it coming off snarky, so I'll just say it and note that I'm not trying to be snarky or condescending. I'd hope that you'd at least consider the possibility that recognizing slide-lock by feel is a very common thing. It's not in the same category as "diagnosis" really.

It's not magic and it doesn't feel at all like a failure-to-fire, stovepipe or a feedway stoppage. It's a pretty basic skill, taught effectively in many "level 101" type classes. You don't "get it" immediately, but it takes very little time before it's obvious and unambiguous. It becomes second-nature very, very quickly with just a little work.

The point at which you've reached slide-lock (and still have shooting to do) is a critical moment requiring speed and efficiency. Adding two steps - tapping & racking - at that moment is not speedy or efficient, assuming that you can train to eliminate those steps.

I've observed that it's easy enough to do so.

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