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MJN77 · February 14, 2011, 09:23 PM

"And my Navy Arms 1863 Springfield doesn't have a clean out screw either..."

But the 1855 and 1861 Springfield and Fayetteville and Richmond rifles and carbines did. Also the Smith, Merrill, and Gallagher carbines. The percussion Sharps rifles and carbines had cleanout screws in the breech block too. Never seen a "fine custom made gun" with a cleanout screw?? Look on pages 44/45 of Echoes Of Glory: Arms and Equipment of the Union at a "fine custom" Morgan "sniper" rifle, and pages 50/51 of the Confederate book for a "fine custom" Leonard "sniper", both with cleanout screws. That's not to mention countless civilian guns from both before and after the civil war. Cleanout screws were quite common on early muzzleloaders. Some had them, some didn't. It is in no way a "modern notion". The term cleanout screw also has nothing to do with the popular lexicon. That is what it's for. Weather it is needed or not is up to the user.
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But that's not the topic of this thread...........

I have a Cabela's "plains rifle" from about the mid 90's made by Investarms (same maker as the GPR) with the slotted cleanout screw. I have a GPR and the plains pistol from about two years ago with the allen screw. Investarms changed the screw. Mystery solved.

February 14, 2011, 09:23 PM	#20
MJN77 Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2009 Location: on a hill in West Virginia Posts: 789	"And my Navy Arms 1863 Springfield doesn't have a clean out screw either..." But the 1855 and 1861 Springfield and Fayetteville and Richmond rifles and carbines did. Also the Smith, Merrill, and Gallagher carbines. The percussion Sharps rifles and carbines had cleanout screws in the breech block too. Never seen a "fine custom made gun" with a cleanout screw?? Look on pages 44/45 of Echoes Of Glory: Arms and Equipment of the Union at a "fine custom" Morgan "sniper" rifle, and pages 50/51 of the Confederate book for a "fine custom" Leonard "sniper", both with cleanout screws. That's not to mention countless civilian guns from both before and after the civil war. Cleanout screws were quite common on early muzzleloaders. Some had them, some didn't. It is in no way a "modern notion". The term cleanout screw also has nothing to do with the popular lexicon. That is what it's for. Weather it is needed or not is up to the user. http://www.sportingadvertising.com/g...rgan_james.htm http://www.angelfire.com/vt/milsurp/smithc.html http://www.nramuseum.com/the-museum/...rbine-(1).aspx But that's not the topic of this thread........... I have a Cabela's "plains rifle" from about the mid 90's made by Investarms (same maker as the GPR) with the slotted cleanout screw. I have a GPR and the plains pistol from about two years ago with the allen screw. Investarms changed the screw. Mystery solved. Last edited by MJN77; February 15, 2011 at 11:44 PM.