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Old May 29, 2008, 08:26 AM   #16
ISP2605
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"They went to a 10mm but some agents couldn't handle it and they eventually went to .40 SW."

This is not true. The FBI moved from the 10mm to an identically performing .40 S&W load, and today issue a slightly hotter one. And the guns have gotten lighter, to boot...
Erik is correct. The FBI never issued full power 10mm ammo for their 1076. It had nothing to do with agents not being able to handle the recoil. The full power 10mm was never considered. The FBI set their performance standards prior to testing and the 10mm Lite met those standards and the 10mm full power loads did nothing to improve on those performances. The 'agents couldn't handle it" is an old internet rumor that's unfortunately being continued by some gun writers who haven't done their research nor checked with the sources. They continue repeating the same lie either thru ignorance or thru their inability to find out the facts.
To discount the 115 gr weight because of Miami is also not looking at the facts. Prior to Miami the FBI was on the kick of rapid expansion/low penetration. They were as fanatical then on that performance as they became as equally fanatical later on with the deep penetration/forget about expansion. They were riding the pendulum riding the swing from one extreme to the other.
As far as the 115 gr my agency carried the 115 for many years. The rd in Miami was the 115 gr Silvertip. Several years prior to Miami we were issued the Silvertip for only a couple of months until our first shooting with it and found that rapid expansion wasn't what was ideal. We switched to Fed 115 BP and later worked with Fed to develop BPLE and later with W-W for the 115 +P+. Those rds, while still 115 gr, are not the same type performers as the Silvertip. We carried the W-W +P+ for many years and it had a very successful record in our shootings as did the BP and BPLE.
It's not the bullet weight but the bullet design.
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