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Head Tomcat · January 29, 2020, 10:26 AM

Guys,

After the never-ending frustration of getting my Uberti Colt 1851 Navy to properly time with the Kirst gated converter...I have realized it is currently beyond me. So - I had a wonderful 20-minute discussion with Mike about it...and the end result is I shipped it out yesterday for him to work his magic.

What led to this was the .020" cylinder endshake of the Kirst assembly and the pistol operating only if it was pointed level or down. Pointing it up even a moderate amount would cause the assembly to slide down to the recoil shield and the hand would now be too long and lock up...before the bolt could drop. I have never worked on a pistol that functioned depending on which way it was pointed - and this was beyond my skill level to fix.

So...off to Goon it went and I asked him to make it perfect as a dedicated black powder cartridge conversion.

Also, I signed into Instagram and went to Goon's page only to be amazed at what all he has worked on. Just looking at the pictures and reading the comments was an education in itself!

Now, to figure out what "perfect" timing is for a Uberti 1858 Remington (as there is no approach milled into the cylinder) since that is something I more than likely can deal with.

Goon.....you really impressed me with your knowledge!

Head Tomcat (who knows when to call it quits and get an expert on the case)

January 29, 2020, 10:26 AM	#26
Head Tomcat Member Join Date: December 16, 2019 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 31	Great Call With Mike! Guys, After the never-ending frustration of getting my Uberti Colt 1851 Navy to properly time with the Kirst gated converter...I have realized it is currently beyond me. So - I had a wonderful 20-minute discussion with Mike about it...and the end result is I shipped it out yesterday for him to work his magic. What led to this was the .020" cylinder endshake of the Kirst assembly and the pistol operating only if it was pointed level or down. Pointing it up even a moderate amount would cause the assembly to slide down to the recoil shield and the hand would now be too long and lock up...before the bolt could drop. I have never worked on a pistol that functioned depending on which way it was pointed - and this was beyond my skill level to fix. So...off to Goon it went and I asked him to make it perfect as a dedicated black powder cartridge conversion. Also, I signed into Instagram and went to Goon's page only to be amazed at what all he has worked on. Just looking at the pictures and reading the comments was an education in itself! Now, to figure out what "perfect" timing is for a Uberti 1858 Remington (as there is no approach milled into the cylinder) since that is something I more than likely can deal with. Goon.....you really impressed me with your knowledge! Head Tomcat (who knows when to call it quits and get an expert on the case)