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Old September 1, 2001, 10:00 PM   #22
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We seem to be assuming things.

1. We assume that the ATF or SO was using the incendiary tear gas. Possibly they were, also possible they were not. I think we should probably wait until the fire investigators make a determination.

As to the differences between the different types of CS dispensers, I was unaware of that (not beaing a tactical team member). We use pressurized gas, period. If the federal agencies use the fire-causing kind, that is probably a policy that needs changed, but its use is likely mandated by procurement policy F10-67543-G (note for the humor-impaired, that is a made-up number), and NOT by some desire to burn guys out. As I said before, if you start a fire, one of two things happens- the guy dies (with horrid press coverage) or the guy comes out armed and desperate. Lose-lose.

2. We also seem to be assuming that this guy was a poor, innocent gun owner being bullied by the ATF. As in, if he has guns, he's a good guy. Whatever. A valid warrant was served for his arrest, he shot a deputy. Not exactly my definition of a stand-up guy.

3. We also seem to be assuming that the agencies screwed up here. I'm not at all convinced they did. I'd like the incendiary device question answered, first.

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