I have no idea how many thousands of rounds I've run through my SSTL tumbler - haven't had the problems int he press like the OP. But I always pray lube, even with carbide dies. Just an old habit because I don't like the idea of metal on metal, regardless of the different Brinnell hardnes numbers.
The longest I've ever had to tumble was 8 hours, and that was with brass that was almost black from tarnish and dirt. 1 gallon of water, 2 tbsp of dish soap, and a little over half a tsp of powdered Lemi-Shine with a 4 hour tumble will get normal dirty brass looking like factory new. If it's really dirty, repeat the process after the first 4 hour batch and it comes out looking like factory new.
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