Very true the he did promote the 180 in the 30-06. He was fond of the caliber /bullet combination for Grizzly bear. JOC noticing dirt fly on the opposite side of the grizzly that he was shooting from complete pass throughs and commented why anyone needs a bigger gun for grizzly bears is beyond him.

His wife used it for cats in India. My only issue with lighter than 150 grain bullets in the 30-06 is out of the 4 30-06 rifles my family has, none of them shoot them that accurately. Bonded bullets have certainly upped the game of conventional calibers. I would bet JOC would never use anything heavier than a 130 grain bonded bullet for anything had he had them. The good old days are now...
On a side note:...This is a very good forum with mature and adult responses. Very few gun forums can have a level of discussion like this without childish insults and the like.... It speaks volumes about the active participants of the Firing Line forums and the level of class everyone tries to maintain.
Great discussion, this round is on me.......

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