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Old January 2, 2013, 09:44 AM   #141
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overthere, it is really very simple.

We either have a natural (not government given) right to effective self defense, or we do not.

Effective self defense does not mean locking ourselves in a room, throwing iPads, or attempting hand to hand combat with pencils (though, barred other alternatives, we might try such methods).

Effective self defense means something that can let the weakest elderly person have a fighting chance against the biggest, meanest man in town - and that means guns.

There are already laws on the books for reckless behaviors resulting in injury; there have already been tort cases over same. What new laws would you propose?
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