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Old November 30, 2012, 04:09 AM   #18
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Join Date: December 4, 1999
Location: WA, the ever blue state
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~ 2003 I loaded up a couple thousand rounds of 13 gr Blue Dot and 60 gr tactical and police Hornady soft point bullets for my .223.
The surplus bullets cost me ~ 3 cents each.
I went ground squirrel hunting 500 miles from home.

I had no data and I had never shot a rifle round with Blue Dot.

I got ~ 2500 fps.

It was way better than the 17HMR I took with me, and cheaper.
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