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Old August 30, 2012, 06:32 PM   #100
Frank Ettin
Join Date: November 23, 2005
Location: California - San Francisco
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Originally Posted by zukiphile
Originally Posted by Frank Ettin
And you want proof that it doesn't....California.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc?
Nope. The particular circumstances and politics leading up to the banning in California of loaded open carry in 1967 and unloaded open carry in 2012 are well documented.

Originally Posted by zukiphile
...Why does that matter in this thread? Because the issue this thread presents involves OCers who have a presumed intent to be confronted by POs. That is distinguishable from conduct giving rise to reasonable suspicion; most people stopped by POs do not intend to provide that,...
Whether it does or not will be up to the court.
"It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff Cooper
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