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Old January 18, 2012, 12:45 AM   #53
Washington Doc
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Okay, starting over.

I'll claim the responsibility of muddling up my own words here, so I am going to start over, without the background story or anything because that seems to sidetrack people. Remove me from the equation people. Sorry for any "snarky" remarks, but I did receive plenty of them from the audience too. I was planning on deleting the entire thread, but don't seem to be able to. If the admins/moderators want to do it for me, then be my guest.
To start over again;

Does anybody else think company policies are the new gun-control? That's the question, if you've heard it already then please don't bother telling me you've heard it before. Just send a link to whatever old thread it's in because it's new to me.

Gun groups do plenty well to protect 2nd amendment rights from the government. Yet, most of us live in a world where we work for somebody else (from individual business to giant corporation) and those employers have "no gun" polices. We all understand why these policies are in place too(every postal worker knows why). They have every right to have that policy in place because it's their company and their private property.

Now, yes, we may chose to seek/relocate/find/work for other entities that do not have those policies if we don't like them, but those entities are few and far between. But, a gun does you no good if it's not with you.

There is obviously no way to force a company to change it's policies unless you are very rich (can purchase 51% of the stocks) or very insane (using violence (which only hurts gun owners as a whole)).

I have tried to think of peaceful ways for the people to influence such employers. There's;
1) Voting for a new president and hoping for the best.
2) Contacting your local govenors/senators and the legislature approach.
3) Attrition/boycotting the business.
4) Petitioning the local community for change.
5) Asking nicely.
6) Anything you suggest. Lets hear it!
Now, I think;
Number five and four would only really work for small, local independent businesses. Number one is a gamble. Number two has been the most suggested answer thus far and probably the most effective. In my energetic arrogance I thought number three was viable. As for number six, I'd love to hear it.

If a new business popped up in a town and it had a racist banner and sloagan (assuming there's no law against it), it would probably not last very long because people would not shop there. The business has the right to keep their sign just as we have the right to not shop there. It's a double edged sword. Same goes for "no-gun" policies and people not having to work/shop there. Both have their own rights.
As a hypothetical, I thought boycotting would be viable because, in the end the company needs the money and you can buy your goods elsewhere (unless it's the only store in town). The idea is that they would give in first and voluntarily change their policies. Is attrition forcing them, I don't know, I think that's the catch-22.

Again, remove me from the equation. I'm restarting this whole thing so I don't have to listen to "snarky" remarks. Or people telling me I screwed up instead of answering the original topic question. Or reading "policies are policies." I know policies are policies, I'm not asking IF they exist, or WHY they exist, or even if they SHOULD exist, we all know they exist and they're there as a part of modern society. I personally don't think they should exist and employers should be freed from the liabilty of gun owning employees too. The two questions that I asked (more or definately less) in the original post and this one is;
1) Does anybody else think company policies are the new gun-control?
2) Do you have any suggestions as how to peacefully influence/change a company's policies?
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