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Old January 17, 2012, 06:18 PM   #10
Brian Pfleuger
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Well, not much has changed except that most places outside NYC and a couple of troublesome counties, most notably Westchester County, are effectively "shall issue". Some places won't even issue "non" carry permits, they'll change the application to concealed carry even if the applicant applies for "sport/hunting" (or whatever it says).

Unfortunately, it's a very fragmented system, held at the whim of the county judge and can change from "shall issue" to "no issue" and back again every time the county judge changes.

Quite correct on the carry of an unlisted handgun... that would NOT go over well.

Attitudes "upstate" are generally pretty good amongst the "powers that be". I've been told by state police officers that they consider restrictions on permits to be illegal and will not enforce them. Even though we technically have no constitutional provision for firearms rights, we do have Article 2, Section 4 of the New York Civil Rights Law, which reads: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms cannot be infringed.” For all the good it does us, I guess...
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