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I use a Tipton carbon fiber rod which is a non imbedding material according to them. I would not argue that bore guides may be good but not necessary if careful cleaning techniques are used. Some of my oldest rifles, two Sakos I mentioned earlier, still shoot three shots into 1/2 inch at 100yds. I started shooting and cleaning these guns almost 40 yrs ago long before carbon fiber rods and bore guides were available to the average shooter. No bore damage according to the performance.
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