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Sevens · August 26, 2010, 08:27 PM

New reply from Coy in response to my e-mail about whether the .327 Federal Magnum brass is exclusive or not:

When the cartridge is submitted to SAAMI, others are allowed to make it. They do that when they anticipate the sales will meet the cost of the R&D time to produce the product.

Coy seems to be saying that Starline is free to produce and sell .327 Fed Mag if they choose. I asked Starline the same question earlier this year and the response I got from March of this year was:

It is not that we are not allowed to produce .327 Federal brass, we simply do not have time to produce .327 Federal brass. We aren’t able to keep up with demand for our standard product line at this time, so we are not adding any new calibers right now.

Regards,
Hunter Pilant
Media Relations/Technical Support
[email protected]

Getting back to Coy from Speer, he went on to say this about the bullets I'm loading in .327 when I mentioned to him that Speer data only EVER seems to cover the expensive premium Gold Dot bullets:

In many calibers you can use “the bullets that fit” the 327 Fed is not that caliber if you intend to use full-power loads. You’ll tear the forcing-cone up or stretch the frame with bullets not designed for full-pressure loads in the 327 Fed. Understand that is not an idle warning, it will happen, this is the place for premium bullets when top velocities are desired.

The way for me to “stay an expert” is to provide tested data and change that when components change. If we tested someone else’s bullets and they changed them and we did not know it, you’d be looking for gun parts and calling me “something other than an expert”.

While that may come off a little rude, it fits well as a response to what I sent to him which I did not include in this post. I asked for some load data, he referred me to the Speer website and I replied back that the data from the experts doesn't help me when the only bullet they ever seem to include is the Gold Dot.

I can't imagine even an ATK bankrolled Speer rep would even hint that Hornady doesn't make a quality, capable bullet. I would think that Hornady is every bit as capable (perhaps more so) of building a quality bullet than is anyone in this business, certainly including Speer. And Federal.

But the bottom line seems to be at this point is that we need to find a way to put a little pressure on Starline to tool up for .327. And yeah, I see where they are coming from. I'm sure anyone who represents Starline could come up with a dozen calibers that are currently in demand/back ordered and back logged.

August 26, 2010, 08:27 PM	#43
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,775	New reply from Coy in response to my e-mail about whether the .327 Federal Magnum brass is exclusive or not: When the cartridge is submitted to SAAMI, others are allowed to make it. They do that when they anticipate the sales will meet the cost of the R&D time to produce the product. Coy seems to be saying that Starline is free to produce and sell .327 Fed Mag if they choose. I asked Starline the same question earlier this year and the response I got from March of this year was: It is not that we are not allowed to produce .327 Federal brass, we simply do not have time to produce .327 Federal brass. We aren’t able to keep up with demand for our standard product line at this time, so we are not adding any new calibers right now. Regards, Hunter Pilant Media Relations/Technical Support [email protected] Getting back to Coy from Speer, he went on to say this about the bullets I'm loading in .327 when I mentioned to him that Speer data only EVER seems to cover the expensive premium Gold Dot bullets: In many calibers you can use “the bullets that fit” the 327 Fed is not that caliber if you intend to use full-power loads. You’ll tear the forcing-cone up or stretch the frame with bullets not designed for full-pressure loads in the 327 Fed. Understand that is not an idle warning, it will happen, this is the place for premium bullets when top velocities are desired. The way for me to “stay an expert” is to provide tested data and change that when components change. If we tested someone else’s bullets and they changed them and we did not know it, you’d be looking for gun parts and calling me “something other than an expert”. While that may come off a little rude, it fits well as a response to what I sent to him which I did not include in this post. I asked for some load data, he referred me to the Speer website and I replied back that the data from the experts doesn't help me when the only bullet they ever seem to include is the Gold Dot. I can't imagine even an ATK bankrolled Speer rep would even hint that Hornady doesn't make a quality, capable bullet. I would think that Hornady is every bit as capable (perhaps more so) of building a quality bullet than is anyone in this business, certainly including Speer. And Federal. But the bottom line seems to be at this point is that we need to find a way to put a little pressure on Starline to tool up for .327. And yeah, I see where they are coming from. I'm sure anyone who represents Starline could come up with a dozen calibers that are currently in demand/back ordered and back logged. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.