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Old January 2, 2010, 04:12 PM   #12
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Whatever happened to the Fourth Ammendment?

To sum this up, a man carrying a concealed handgun in Georgia, legally with permit, was briefly detained by a patrol officer and had his CCW and weapon confiscated. The officer "got a glimpse" of the concealed weapon and treated the man as though he were committing a crime.

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Now I ask, what happened to this unreasonable search and seizure thing? If you're carrying a weapon, unless the officer has probable cause to believe that you are doing so illegally, intend to or have committed a crime, my instinct is to believe that he has no right to request anything more than identification and CCW. This is as if your car were impounded, with all documentation in order and without arrest, leaving the driver stranded on the side of the road, after a routine traffic stop because the officer thinks there are a lot of car thefts in the area, but has no actual cause to believe your car was stolen. Without cause there can be no search nor seizure (except in Commiefornia where the 4th doesn't apply to gun owners anyway)

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759
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