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Sam06 · March 28, 2009, 04:25 PM

I have seen these bullets in the Philippines and other places. You will all have to excuse me as Dingo and I dig at each other all the time. I am sorry if I led anyone to believe I REALLY thought they were Armor Piercing bullets as I know better. It was a bit of levity, I won't let it happen again.

The bullets come from the factory with that coating. I am not sure what it is but it is not like grease or Moly. It is more like a very soft Vinyl coating. I have NEVER seen them in the USA but then I have never been to Vermont

I have seen them overseas though.

I don't think we have them because they are coated with composition X

Here is a Thread about them in the Philippines where a guy kB'ed a 40 cal where they were loaded.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...teflon+bullets

Trapp, As you will see if you look at the Articles in the links there are states that have banned Teflon coated bullets, like South Carolina. I would think that a bullet manufactuer here in the states would realize this and not teflon coat their bullets so they could be sold in more states as the teflon does nothing for the bullet. As stated before the teflon was there so the hard bullet could accept the rifling and to some extent cut down on ricochetts.

I know Wikipedia is not the end all but you can follow the links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon_coated_bullet

Here are some articles on them.

http://www.alphadogweb.com/firearms/...lerbullets.htm
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvcopk.html
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/top..._coated_bullet

This is a real good read:
http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/...0403010926.asp

Here is the bill that banned the bullets(Or at least armor piercing bullets in hand guns:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...:@@@D&summ2=m&

In a nut shell:
There was a company called KTW that made Teflon coated Armor Piercing bullets in the 60's till the mid 80's. The anti gun crowd got their teeth in to this and dubbed them Cop Killer bullets. Now all Teflon coated bullets are banned from sale. KTW bullets command a high price in the collector bullet market. I have a few 357 Mag KTW bullets in my collection.

Here is what the bullets look like:

I know this is off thread but I thought I should clear some things up here. The bullets are real and were called cop killer bullets, they were outlawed, There are no more of them and the Anti-gun crowd as ignorant as they are declared them illegal. The real gist of the story is the Teflon only was used to coat the bullets so they would take rifling. Not as some "Slick 50 garbage" to let the bullet slide through the Metal/Body armor. The bullets you see in dingos picture and in the thread about the kB 40cal are Teflon coated.

Ironically here are 2 countries with very stringent Gun Laws(Australia and Philippines) where you can get Teflon coated bullets....Makes you wonder does it not?

What most here don't know is that Dingo and I are just messing with each other...................Hope that helped you out some...........Sam

March 28, 2009, 04:25 PM	#8
Sam06 Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2008 Location: Fayettenam Posts: 1,086	Ever heard of KTW? and HR3132?? I have seen these bullets in the Philippines and other places. You will all have to excuse me as Dingo and I dig at each other all the time. I am sorry if I led anyone to believe I REALLY thought they were Armor Piercing bullets as I know better. It was a bit of levity, I won't let it happen again. The bullets come from the factory with that coating. I am not sure what it is but it is not like grease or Moly. It is more like a very soft Vinyl coating. I have NEVER seen them in the USA but then I have never been to Vermont I have seen them overseas though. I don't think we have them because they are coated with composition X Here is a Thread about them in the Philippines where a guy kB'ed a 40 cal where they were loaded. http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...teflon+bullets Trapp, As you will see if you look at the Articles in the links there are states that have banned Teflon coated bullets, like South Carolina. I would think that a bullet manufactuer here in the states would realize this and not teflon coat their bullets so they could be sold in more states as the teflon does nothing for the bullet. As stated before the teflon was there so the hard bullet could accept the rifling and to some extent cut down on ricochetts. I know Wikipedia is not the end all but you can follow the links. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teflon_coated_bullet Here are some articles on them. http://www.alphadogweb.com/firearms/...lerbullets.htm http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvcopk.html http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/top..._coated_bullet This is a real good read: http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/...0403010926.asp Here is the bill that banned the bullets(Or at least armor piercing bullets in hand guns: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...:@@@D&summ2=m& In a nut shell: There was a company called KTW that made Teflon coated Armor Piercing bullets in the 60's till the mid 80's. The anti gun crowd got their teeth in to this and dubbed them Cop Killer bullets. Now all Teflon coated bullets are banned from sale. KTW bullets command a high price in the collector bullet market. I have a few 357 Mag KTW bullets in my collection. Here is what the bullets look like: I know this is off thread but I thought I should clear some things up here. The bullets are real and were called cop killer bullets, they were outlawed, There are no more of them and the Anti-gun crowd as ignorant as they are declared them illegal. The real gist of the story is the Teflon only was used to coat the bullets so they would take rifling. Not as some "Slick 50 garbage" to let the bullet slide through the Metal/Body armor. The bullets you see in dingos picture and in the thread about the kB 40cal are Teflon coated. Ironically here are 2 countries with very stringent Gun Laws(Australia and Philippines) where you can get Teflon coated bullets....Makes you wonder does it not? What most here don't know is that Dingo and I are just messing with each other...................Hope that helped you out some...........Sam