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RickV · February 22, 2009, 01:00 PM

I am not using Titegroup with my PD 165g FMJs. I use w231 but with my M&P 40 I found that using starting loads would not cycle the gun. With .2g more gun would cycle but were the ejected brass would go was always an adventure. With .2g more gun cycled perfectly this was .2g below maximum load for the W231. Not sure if this helps but semis need a little more to cycle properly.

February 22, 2009, 01:00 PM	#3
RickV Senior Member Join Date: November 7, 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 172	I am not using Titegroup with my PD 165g FMJs. I use w231 but with my M&P 40 I found that using starting loads would not cycle the gun. With .2g more gun would cycle but were the ejected brass would go was always an adventure. With .2g more gun cycled perfectly this was .2g below maximum load for the W231. Not sure if this helps but semis need a little more to cycle properly.