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Old April 20, 2008, 04:45 PM   #22
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Are the skills Front Sight teaches a good starting point, or just plain wrong?
Oustanding starting point!

Many believe that I am anti-Modern Techniques.....but that is just not so. My opinion has always been that the fundamentals of marksmanship, that the Modern Techniques teach, is a foundation that anything can be built on.

Tom's OP is also an outstanding starting point!

Does Front Sight focus progress to be an instinctual, muscle memory part of combat, or a hinderance likely to get you killed?
It has it's place inside of the fight continuum. It is a necessary skill set....but is not the "end all, be all" that Frontsight portrays. If you do not understand the "context of the fight" and you use a response that is simply illogical, it could get you killed.

Prior to attending my first course I could barely aim in in 2 seconds, now I can draw from concealment and place two controlled shots on target. This is better than the average thug, and therefore could give me just enough edge to come out alive.
Once again, this depends on the context of the fight. The recent FBI report states that the BG's train much more than one would think. They also train in instinctive shooting (point shooting,) which gives them a pretty substantial time/speed advantage. If you take into consideration that the averge CCW confrontation will most likely happen with you being in a reactive position (behind in the reactionary curve and the OODA loop) stand and deliver sighted fire may not be the best response to these types of situation. This is easily proven in FOF.

Pony, you are on the right path. But you have to accept that the "situation" is the dictating factor on whether the fundamentals of marksmanship is going to be a logical response for the given situation.

Here is a little something to help you see the realities of the situation.

Priorities of the Gun Fight and “The Fight Continuum”

Avoid one easily and completely due to preparedness, knowledge, and awareness by being deselected.

See one coming and get the heck out of Dodge due to preparedness, knowledge, and awareness.

See one coming due to preparedness, knowledge, and awareness, but to have no choice but to end it by dominating the action and decisively ending it with solid behind cover or stand and deliver marksmanship skills.

Unfortunately, “The Fight Continuum” does not stop here.

See one coming due to preparedness, knowledge, and awareness, at the same time that a dedicated opponent recognizes that you see it coming. The context of the fight is equal initiative and the victor will be the one that mitigates his weaknesses while maximizing his strengths. Stand and deliver, sighted fire, controlled movement, alternative sighting methods, dynamic movement, or point shooting. It all comes down to who are you, what is your skill level, what are your limitations? The higher the skill level, the lower the chance of taking rounds. Remember “Movement favors the trained shooter….dynamic movement favors them even more so.”

Find out that you are going to be in a gunfight only after you have seen the adversary’s weapon and he has the opportunity to inflict serious bodily harm or death……right now! Explode off of the X to get inside of the adversaries OODA loop. Acquire your handgun, put hits onto the adversary as quickly as you possibly can to try to take back the lost initiative. Fluidly move from a reactive position to, to equal initiative, to the point that you are dominating and decisively ending the confrontation by the use of your dynamic movement and the ballistic effect of your “progressively accurate marksmanship.”

Find out that you are going to be in a gunfight, but only after you go “hands on” to get the adversaries weapon off of you and you create enough distance so that you can acquire your handgun. Integrate quality “hands on” skills to the point that the weapon is off of you and that you have the time to access and index onto the threat. The available time that you create dictates the type of response that is most effective and efficient.

“Luck favors the prepared!”
"Situations dictate strategy, strategy dictates tactics, tactics dictate techniques.....techniques should not dictate anything."
Roger Phillips, Owner and Operator of Fight Focused Concepts
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