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Monkeyleg · March 3, 2007, 05:02 AM

rhgunguy, I've made so many mistakes that I've lost count.

"I am sure that losing sponsorship had a great deal to do with Zumbo re-evaluating his position, but Nugent invited Zumbo to talk."

Yeah, having your career go down in flames, the only career you've known, pretty much the only source of income you have...that will cause you to re-evaluate your position.

Unless, of course, your position is so well-staked that you can't wriggle out of it.

"Nugent does a ton for not only the firearms community, but also for other conservative values. I seriously doubt that the contribution was that high. Perhaps a tenth that, after all the guy has got to eat."

What contribution, and how high? We were hosting a fund-raising banquet for our political action commitee, the WCCM. Any monkey with a keyboard could access our PAC's contribution records for the past 5+ years and see what we've been doing.

The banquet was to raise as much money as possible for gubernatorial candidate Mark Green, as well as senate and assembly candidates who were solidly behind the CCW bill.

I made several efforts to contact Ted Nugent, and to see if he would recognize the cause, and perhaps adjust his speaking fees accordingly.

I also suggested that we schedule our fund-raising banquet sometime around the NRA's national convention here in Milwaukee, so that his travel and hotel schedule wouldn't be inconvenienced.

I talked to his staff over and over. And got the same answer: $25,000 to $35,000.

I saw Nugent at the May NRA convention here. I wanted to go up and slap him.

Not because he's trying to make a few bucks. I never begrudge anyone for trying to make money.

I was ticked off because Ted Nugent claims to be some champion of Second Amendment rights. If he had been true to his claims, and had just appeared for one hour at our banquet (an hour's flight from his home), we could have raised ten times the money we did for pro-gun candidates.

Instead, we were told that he would require $25,000 to $35,000 for the speech, first-class airline seats, and a five-star hotel.

I'll trade you one Massad Ayoob for five Ted Nugents any day of the week.

At the very least, Massad knows better than to curse when interviewed.

And I very much doubt that Massad would have ever written, much less sang, a song such as "Cat Scratch Fever."

March 3, 2007, 05:02 AM	#7
Monkeyleg Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2000 Posts: 4,625	rhgunguy, I've made so many mistakes that I've lost count. "I am sure that losing sponsorship had a great deal to do with Zumbo re-evaluating his position, but Nugent invited Zumbo to talk." Yeah, having your career go down in flames, the only career you've known, pretty much the only source of income you have...that will cause you to re-evaluate your position. Unless, of course, your position is so well-staked that you can't wriggle out of it. "Nugent does a ton for not only the firearms community, but also for other conservative values. I seriously doubt that the contribution was that high. Perhaps a tenth that, after all the guy has got to eat." What contribution, and how high? We were hosting a fund-raising banquet for our political action commitee, the WCCM. Any monkey with a keyboard could access our PAC's contribution records for the past 5+ years and see what we've been doing. The banquet was to raise as much money as possible for gubernatorial candidate Mark Green, as well as senate and assembly candidates who were solidly behind the CCW bill. I made several efforts to contact Ted Nugent, and to see if he would recognize the cause, and perhaps adjust his speaking fees accordingly. I also suggested that we schedule our fund-raising banquet sometime around the NRA's national convention here in Milwaukee, so that his travel and hotel schedule wouldn't be inconvenienced. I talked to his staff over and over. And got the same answer: $25,000 to $35,000. I saw Nugent at the May NRA convention here. I wanted to go up and slap him. Not because he's trying to make a few bucks. I never begrudge anyone for trying to make money. I was ticked off because Ted Nugent claims to be some champion of Second Amendment rights. If he had been true to his claims, and had just appeared for one hour at our banquet (an hour's flight from his home), we could have raised ten times the money we did for pro-gun candidates. Instead, we were told that he would require $25,000 to $35,000 for the speech, first-class airline seats, and a five-star hotel. I'll trade you one Massad Ayoob for five Ted Nugents any day of the week. At the very least, Massad knows better than to curse when interviewed. And I very much doubt that Massad would have ever written, much less sang, a song such as "Cat Scratch Fever."