View Full Version : Help me find: sub-caliber training shells.

Long Path
August 16, 2001, 05:45 PM
A good 10+ years ago, in Guns & Ammo, I believe, they did a report on a really nifty tool. These were shells that unscrewed so that a .38 Spl cartridge could be inserted to a sub-chamber, and then could be cycled through and fired out of the shotgun. The end of the "shell" had about 3/4" to 1" of barrel, and the bullet would travel down the barrel without touching the bore, and hit right where the shotgun was pointing.

The big plus to this is that there's almost no felt recoil, relative to a shotgun shell fired from a pump gun. This allows people to train with their manual of arms without receiving the unfortunate slamming of recoil, and they can improve their manual of arms.

But I haven't seen these things. Where are they? Ideally, they'd have a similar sub-caliber round for .22 rimfire (which obviously would be harder to design.).

Anybody seen them? Anybody got an actual brand name for them? Know the cost? I want some!


Long Path
August 17, 2001, 05:46 AM

Long Path
August 18, 2001, 08:06 AM
Come on, friends! NOBODY here knows anything about these things?


Long Path
August 21, 2001, 11:56 PM
$30 a pop! Ouch!

We'll keep looking...


Dave McC
August 22, 2001, 07:41 AM
I think it's Orvis that adverstises Little Skeeters, sub bbls that fit into a 12 or 20 ga and are set up for 28 ga or 410. They're about 8" long. from the pic. Patterns may be, uh, open.