View Full Version : New TFL Software

June 9, 2001, 08:30 AM
Rich (and all others who contributed) --

Truly excellent, moving us from perfectly adequate to elegant.

Sincerely, thank you and best regards -- Roy

Rich Lucibella
June 9, 2001, 09:32 AM

We musta screwed up somewhere!

Jeff Thomas
June 9, 2001, 10:21 AM
Rich et al, this is absolutely fantastic! Very impressive.

A company I know has been developing their own, proprietary software for a very similar task. As far as I can tell, the only thing that discouraged them about existing forum software was the inability to attach files. Now I see absolutely no reason for them to continue their expensive development.

Bravo, Rich! Thank you.

Regards from AZ

June 9, 2001, 12:04 PM
I like it. :D

June 9, 2001, 12:59 PM

I like it too! However I think the little arrow icons on the forum index page in with the post titles are a bit much. To me, they seem to clutter up things. I love the rest of the new look. Sorry to throw a wet blanket on your hard work and dedication.

I appreciate everything you do for us!



June 9, 2001, 01:03 PM
Boy that was fast... as soon as I made my post the arrows changed design. The new ones look much better...


Rich Lucibella
June 9, 2001, 01:08 PM
Those arrows are clickable...they take you to the most recent post in that Forum. I don't know how useful they are...I never use 'em.

June 9, 2001, 02:51 PM
Hey the new version of the vbulletin looks great, interface is definitely improved.

Is it just me, or does this version seem to be slower at loading pages...I also find when I'm trying to load a TFl page and try to look over on another browser window, it freezes up momentarily until the TFL page fully loads. I've experienced this with other boards using the latest vbulletin software.

I know its not just my computer, I tried it on others and get similar results.

Rich Lucibella
June 9, 2001, 02:58 PM
I've not had the problem, but it's possible.

I do know that the database work (search word indexing, updating post counts and the like) is faster by about a factor of 10! However, these do minimal passes to the Browser.

Developer discussion forums are located here ( I've seen no bug reports regarding speed and these guys are all over this software.

I sense that the post editing takes a bit longer, but I suspect this is because it needs to re-access the Search Index, which in our case is 290 MB! (I set the search to be able to accomodate words as small as 3 letters...this increases the size by 50 percent vs 4 letters and up.)


June 9, 2001, 03:02 PM

On a couple of the forums that I go to, the uploaded images display right in the post without having to click on a link. Is there any way you could set this forum up like that?


Rich Lucibella
June 9, 2001, 03:05 PM
It can be set to auto-display. However, it's a real drag for people with slower modems. We've always prefered that people post links to images rather than embed them.

June 9, 2001, 09:29 PM
I vote against auto display....I'm one of the slo loaders.

June 10, 2001, 07:14 PM
This new forum is the absolute worst for people with slow loaders. The only benefit is that you can clean a gun while you go from one forum to the next. It's that slow. I'll have to try my laptop tomorrow to see if the speed increases. Unless mine is an isolated case you are going to lose a lot of members unless something can be done about the speed.

Rich Lucibella
June 10, 2001, 07:23 PM
Yours is an isolated case. Do a trace route...bet it's your IP.

June 10, 2001, 08:08 PM
I cannot hit faster than 28K on my line due to analog switching. The board seems just fine on my end regarding speed.

Brett Bellmore
June 10, 2001, 09:05 PM
What exactly is the purpose of the little "go" button next to the forum jump selection at the bottom of the page? I noticed that it goes ahead and jumps to the new forum the moment you chose it, without waiting for you to click "go".

Caeca Invidia Es
June 10, 2001, 09:10 PM
Brett, it insures compatibility with older browsers and some text based browsers.

Mike Irwin
June 10, 2001, 10:45 PM
Except for the noted problem on my end, this new software is fantastic.

I'm still trying to figure out the proper function for some of the vB code tools, though.

June 11, 2001, 08:26 AM
I too, like the new format. But it does load slow. And I have a cable modem.:confused:

June 11, 2001, 09:27 AM
OH NO!!! I got an error saying I used to may images, and when I clicked "back" my message wasnt there anymore!!! (it was A LONG Message too) I think I only used like 6-7 smiles in it. Oh well I guess :(

June 11, 2001, 10:05 AM
When I attempted to view posts today, I am unable to do so using Netscape. I keep getting "communication error (-336)." Can you tell me what the problem is? Thanks, WYO

Caeca Invidia Es
June 11, 2001, 10:42 AM
I was getting that same communications error yesterday during some testing. Ended up reinstalling netscape and it worked fine after that.

June 11, 2001, 04:14 PM
If you are having slow load times, try what I did when I was on dial up:

Open the site that is loading slow for you in one window.
Open another window to do everything else (email, chat, surfing, etc..)
While you wait for your first window to load, utilise the other one. :)

June 11, 2001, 11:28 PM
Bells and whistles, whistles and bells.

I'm not one to impede progress - unless it hurts. Now, will someone tell me how to change all this <fontsize="8"> stuff? Nothing changes when I use IE View/Text Size. Looked in Options - No Go. I can't read all these great posts as I did before. Is there a mirror site using the previous software version?

This is not a crank call - just a call for help. Direct me to larger fonts - please.


Rich Lucibella
June 12, 2001, 01:36 AM

Try it and report back.

June 12, 2001, 08:24 AM
who says you can't teach old dogs new tricks?

All this time I thought I was on the way to being a true 'puter guru and find myself just a hacker. Also, I thought "Accessibility" was for the [whatever] challenged - not including me, of course - so I've stayed away from Accessibility functions in IE. Learn something new every day.

Rich, thank you for the path to readability - now I can go on being me - crusty and rusty.

Oh... how do I turn down the volume on all them thar bells and whistles? :D :D