The Savage Accutrigger - do you love it or hate it?

[sirgilligan]

I am doing some research on a specific cartridge and Savage has many models available. I have never pulled a trigger on a Savage. I have a CZ bolt action and a Browning BAR Safari.

Do you like the accutrigger? Why?
Do you dislike the accutrigger? Why?

[taylorce1]

I don't like the Accutrigger, just the same way I don't like Glock triggers. They work well, and they allow Savage to set the triggers lighter and keep lawyers happy. I prefer to practice good trigger control and keep my finger off the trigger rather than have a mechanical device protect me from accidental discharges.

[Snyper]

Do you like the accutrigger? Why?
Do you dislike the accutrigger? Why?
None of the above.
It's just a trigger, like millions of other triggers

The fan boys will tell you how great they are, but most rifles shoot just as well with their respective trigger designs

[Pahoo]

Do you like the accutrigger? Why?
Because out of the box, you have a decent, "safe" adjustable trigger. I enjoy working with my Ruger 10/22's but have to do trigger work to match the Savages. Even at that, the savage trigger can be improved, lightened with little effort.
The Accutrigger is actually a safety block to a lighter trigger. These triggers are becoming an industry standard. Just look around.


Do you dislike the accutrigger? Why?Don't dislike but wish they would provide for a lower range spring.

Be Safe !!!

[jmr40]

As far as having a great trigger pull the Accutrigger is no better, nor worse than most others. The blade in the trigger has to be depressed in order for the firing pin to move forward. This helps prevent AD's if the trigger is adjusted too light or if the gun is dropped. Not really a bad thing in theory, several other guns use a similar system and if done right I can live with it.

The Savage has one design flaw that I don't care for. It is possible to place your finger on the triggers edge and pull the trigger without depressing the blade in the center. If you do this the sear disengages, but the firing pin does not strike the primer. You have to open and close the bolt in order to re-cock the gun before it will fire. Not earth shattering, but it could cause a missed opportunity at a game animal.

I can't say for sure about all others. But the Ruger American uses a similar trigger blade design. The trigger on the Ruger won't pull if the blade is not depressed. I like their version better.

[AK103K]

Ive had Savages with and without the Accutrigger, and they were all nice triggers out of the box. I never felt the need to fiddle with any of them.

I never noticed the blade in the Accutriggers while shooting either. Pull the trigger, it goes bang.

[doofus47]

I have one on my Savage trophy hunter. It took a bit of getting used to for me, b/c most of my other triggers are a bit heavier. Straight out of the box, though, it broke lightly and evenly. I like it. I've never bought a bunch of Geiselle's or other adjustable triggers to compare it to, so... I might be speaking of ignorance.

[Colorado Redneck]

I like the Accutrigger, but as Jmr40 says, you can have a snafu if the trigger disengages the sear. Mine is on a 22-250 for prairie rat shooting, so it is not a big issue to re-cock the gun and then try again. Aside from that one issue, it works great, is light to pull and breaks nicely. No smith involved, no BS, just adjust it to your liking and go shoot.

[4runnerman]

I have 3 of them. Like them very much. I like being able to set my pull. My BR has a the Precision Accutrigger. They break crisp and clean. I don't care for the having to take rifle apart to set them, but once set it is a done deal. Now my BR did have a glitch at first. Once they get used a bit you have to set tension up a little. I really don't see anything to not like about them. Compared to a stock trigger they are great.

[olddav]

I've never owned one but I got to try one (display model). It would misfire if you pushed the blade off center while squeezing the trigger, and it wasn't hard. I would suggest installing an after market trigger. At least three quality manufactures to choose from.

[jersurf101]

I am a fan of the accutrigger. It is better than most standard out of the box triggers IMHO. Certainly better than my Weatherby, and Axis triggers.

[indie_rocker]

I'm a novice when it comes to hunting rifles. But I do like the Accutrigger on my .308 Axis II. It's very easy to adjust and breaks clean but have very little input on how it compares to other rifles.

[4runnerman]

Olddav- It is designed that way. What you are describing is pulling sideways on the trigger which will cause you to pull your shot. The accutrigger was designed to force you to pull straight back on it. Chances are , That if that would have been a target or a animal you were shooting at you would have missed or so. Cheesey as it seems-One can look at the accutrigger as a learning tool for trigger control:D. Now I am not pushing the thing as others have mentioned there are many as good and better triggers out there for sure. I don't know of too may other stock rifles that have as nice of a trigger as the accutrigger right out of the box. I am tempted to try some other ones, but for now I will hang with these.

[TxWheels]

I replaced my savage trigger system (accu triger) with a Timney.

[4runnerman]

Txwheels-- Was it a big difference?. As i said-I have been thinking about it also.

[Saltydog235]

I like and dislike the Accutrigger all in the same breath. There is no comparison to the Timney's I have in other rifles. However, in comparison to the 40X, Rugers, Brownings and a few others, it's a much better trigger in the Savages I own. In fact, as far as factory triggers go, I'd take it over any but the triggers in my Sakos.

[AllenJ]

I did not think I would like the AccuTrigger, the blade just seemed like something that would be a distraction, but last fall I ran into a deal I could not pass up on a Savage Precision Carbine in 308 Winchester and I bought it. I've put over a few hundred rounds through the Savage now and I've come to really like the gun, and the trigger is a huge part of that. Very crisp trigger with minimal pull weight and over-travel, and I don't even notice the blade when shooting.

[FrankenMauser]

It's an improvement over previous Savage designs.

...But still behind the rest of the industry.


When Remington 'borrowed' the important parts of the Marlin X7 to create the 783, the first thing that they took, and one of few parts that went completely unmodified, was the Pro-Fire trigger. And that trigger was on the cheapest 'budget class' rifle on the market.

[Fotheringill]

I have a .223 with a target Accu-Trigger that sets down to 6 oz.
I shred paper only.
I love it.

[Pahoo]

I have a .223 with a target Accu-Trigger that sets down to 6 oz.
WOW,
I too punch paper and I can't get mine to go lower that 1.5lbs. unless I work the spring. I have to assume that it still maintains the safety factor. .... ;)

As in most cases, don't take our word for it, just see for yourself. I can clearly stated that these triggers are good and it's okay for you to feel that they are not. ..... ;)

Stay Safe !!!

[Erno86]

I like my Accu-Trigger on my single shot Model 12, in 223...which is mainly used for paper punching --- because it avoids me from buying an expensive after-market trigger --- but I feel no need for such a trigger on a rifle intended for big game.

On the web...one guy complains that on his F-Class Model 12: That the Accu-Trigger locks-up when he slams the bolt home --- thusly having to open an close the bolt just to get the trigger to work again. I have never slammed my bolt on my Model 12 {to see if the trigger locks-up,} but I will try it the next time I take my Model 12 to the range.

[Fotheringill]

Pahoo-

I have the Target Accu-Trigger, not the regular Accu-Trigger. They are only in some single shot models. I have the 18890 model. The target triggers have the front part of the blade colored red or orange (can't tell one from the other). The regulars are silver. They are installed only in the Target actions.

For .22lr, I shoot an Anschutz with a #5018 trigger. It goes down to 2 oz. but it was too light for me so it is now at 3.:) It is better than the Savage trigger. Adjustments are on it for pull, travel, and other stuff I didn't need to use as well as a great trigger shoe that adjusts like the driver's seat on a new car.

Erno- Savage says not to slam the Target Accu-Trigger home. Also, when he puts the action back into the stock, does he do it with the stock vertical or horizontal?

[Pahoo]

I have the Target Accu-Trigger, not the regular Accu-Trigger.
Well, I thank you for the information as I was not aware if this. Gosh, you mean it even gets better. ..... :eek:

Be Safe !!!

[precision_shooter]

Erno86, look at the link below. My model 12 with precision target trigger l(same as the f-class rifles) has printed on the action to "close bolt with extreme care"... Guy must not be able to read what is printed either on the rifle or in the manual or just doesn't care what the MFG has to say...

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558553

[bamaranger]

I have one rifle, a .22 heavy barrel TR, with the accu-trig, and like it. It shoots very well, even with bulk ammo. It seems near impossible to get a high grade trigger on a production rifle these days with out the "flappy paddle".

[sirgilligan]

Thanks for the replies.

:D

[reynolds357]

It all depends on what you are comparing the Accutrigger to. Compared to most stock trigger, I like the Accutrigger a lot. Compared to customs, I do not like it very well at all. It is reasonable light, but it is creepy. It has a weird feel to it. It is annoying to adjust. The Red Accutrigger is a whole different discussion.;) I love those.

[Fotheringill]

I was using the word "target" instead of "precision" in describing the Precision Accu-Trigger. My apologies. Whatever one calls it, the red trigger is terrific.

If one is thinking of purchasing a rifle with a regular accu-trigger and want to upgrade to precision, Savage says it can't be done.

If you are looking at same on GB, see if the pictures show a red or silver trigger. Also, ask for a close up of the side of the receiver with the printing on it so you are not disappointed upon taking your first shot.

[ch47gunner]

Didn't like -
The way it's set up, with the Glock thingy, if you don't pull "straight" back it'll click but won't fire then has to be re-set/re-cocked. I just didn't like the Glock springy thingy. The lowest weight adjustment would probably be OK for a field/hunting rifle but not for a varmint/target rifle.
I replaced mine, on a 93R17-BV .17HMR, with a Rifle Basix trigger. Much better.

[TxWheels]

4runnerman - The Timney addition was like night and day.

After I installed it, I used a friends Trigger scale and set it at 3 pounds.
It is simply amazing in how smooth and crisp it works.

[4runnerman]

Thanks TxWheels- Will have to look more close now. I just can't decide, so many other things to buy.

[Huffmanite]

Do not own a Savage rifle with an Accrutrigger. However, do shoot on a regular basis with several gents who do own a number of Savage rifles that came with an accrutrigger. Pretty sure, most of them will replace the accutrigger with probably a Rifle Basix one. I've asked why and basic answer was "I didn't like the accrutrigger". Cannot recall ever getting a specific answer. While all of them like to hunt and do, these rifles were mostly used for benchrest shooting.

[reynolds357]

It is hard for the accutrigger to ever be a trigger that will make a die hard bench rest shooter happy. As far as that goes, Rifle basix will not make many die hard bench rest shooters happy. Jewell is very addictive.;) Once you have shot Jewell, it is hard to be happy with anything else.

[Txhillbilly]

I've got 5 rifles with the Accu-trigger/Target Accu-trigger,and 4 without it. It took a short time to get used to the Accu-trigger,but I like them just fine.
I have Sharp Shooter competition triggers on 2 rifles and the old Savage 3 screw triggers on the other 2.
With a little stoning,the old 3 screw triggers are some of the best triggers I've ever had,they can be set down into the ounce's pull range very safely,and are easier to set up than the Sharp Shooter trigger.

If guy's with the standard Accu-trigger want a lighter trigger,just buy the Target trigger spring and replace it.

[Palmetto-Pride]

I know I am a little late on this thread, but I wanted to get my .02 in. I also didn't think I would like the Accutrigger, but after shooting it a good bit and learned how it should be pulled it is really a great design. I have had mine as low as 8oz now I have it around 12oz and with the design it is impossible to have a accidental discharge without having to have the center blade pulled back also. I look at the Accutrigger as a two stage trigger the first stage is pulling the center blade until your finger touches the main trigger when your finger starts to pull on the main trigger BANG gun goes off as if you were pulling through the second stage......I love it.

[SVTCobra306]

I have two Savages with, have one without, and had yet another without. I really like the Accutrigger on my model 10 Trophy Hunter, it was set at the factory right where I like it for hunting. I have my model 93-17 set a little heavier because it gets drug through the woods a lot more and I wanted the extra perceived safety of the slightly heavier pull. Still like it :)

I have a model 11 Hunter without an accutrigger, and I put in a timney trigger. I actually think I like the accutrigger better.

[Mozella]

I like the one on my Savage MKII FV 22LR. I added the Apachee trigger kit and it is now very very good. What I really like is that I can set my trigger to a light pull while still taking advantage of the safety feature built into the trigger.

I have to laugh when people complain that pulling the trigger without touching the blade or pushing the trigger sideways will result in the weapon not firing. Hint: You aren't supposed to pull a trigger with the tip of your fingernail nor are you supposed to pull a trigger sideways.

Put your finger on the trigger properly and pull straight back. Doing anything else appears to the trigger as a dangerous situation, perhaps something like what a hunter might encounter if the trigger is touched by a twig or like what might happen if a BR shooter drops his rifle.

What's next? Complaining that when you put your scope on backwards, the targets look really really tiny? :rolleyes:

[Rob62]

I like it, but don't love it. It's not a Timney, but for a factory offering its really nice. And I think this style of trigger will become a classic feature on many future rifles.

Regards,

Rob

[cdbeagle]

Bought a .243 a couple of years ago with the Accu-Stock and Trigger. It was seriously accurate. Never liked the trigger so I sold it. Nothing against the trigger, it just wasn't for me.

We all owe a debt to the AccuTrigger because without it I feel almost all factory rifles would come with lawyer mandated 8 lb trigger pulls.

[FrankenMauser]

We all owe a debt to the AccuTrigger because without it I feel almost all factory rifles would come with lawyer mandated 8 lb trigger pulls.
Why?

It wasn't the first adjustable factory trigger.
It wasn't the first reduced pull weight factory trigger.
It wasn't the first adjustable sear engagement factory trigger.
It wasn't the first over travel adjustable factory trigger.
It wasn't the first factory trigger machined for mediocre "crispness."
It wasn't the first factory trigger to combine all of those factors.
Nor was it even the first factory trigger to combine those factors after the "dark ages" of the '80s and '90s.

It is a trigger with a blade. That's it.

The only reason people seem to think it deserves credit for "accomplishing" amazing feats that weren't earned ....is because Savage marketed the crap out of it (and still does, if you haven't noticed). They opened their wallet and sent a steady stream of cash into the marketing department, with every single advertisement and gun writer extolling the endless virtues of this 'god sent' Accu-Trigger and how it would turn the average goon into a competition shooter.


We owe Savage nothing for the Accu-Trigger. It's still a low grade trigger that is manufactured to a price point.
Savage proves that point, themselves, with the fact that they make two versions: Peasant grade (Accu-Trigger). And Varmint/Target grade (Precision Accu-Trigger).
One gets polished and deburred the way that ANY trigger is supposed to be made. The other just gets assembled and left for the consumer to break in.


Thanking Savage for the Accu-Trigger is like thanking General Motors for still using drum brakes on some of their vehicles, but advertising how wonderful they are with ABS. "Oh, thank you, car gods, for giving us 110 year old technology, purely to save $0.93 during production. We'll just ignore the fact that the ABS is a Federal safety requirement, too..." ;)

[4runnerman]

Franken what you say is in part very true, But the Accutrigger is still miles better than triggers you get on 95% of off the shelf rifles still today. It's not the point of who made it or who put it out first, nor really anything you vented about. It's the fact that you can get them in so many of their out the door rifles and they work very well. It's not the end all end trigger by far, but still miles ahead Remmy, Wins,Tikas, ect ect. I have a bunch now of the (as you put it) peasant grade and target grade. While I am still looking at upgradeing my target to a different one,it is still a very nice setup. They break clean and crisp,no creep. The only thing I really dislike is the having to take rifle apart to adjust, but that also is a one time adjustment most times. So other than the marketing stuff you mentioned, What is it you dislike about them?. As i said-They are not the end all end triggers, but still pretty darn nice setups. So I am very interested in what it is you don't like.

[cdbeagle]

Because in my opinion the AccuTrigger halted the slide toward heavier and heavier triggers. I don't care for the AccuTrigger but I'm glad Savage came out with it, and I'd rather have an AccuTrigger on a rifle than many of the current factory triggers out there.

[Palmetto-Pride]

FrankenMauser I agree with some of your points, but please tell me what other factory trigger on a standard production bolt action rifle can you adjust down into the ounces safely? I have had my Accutrigger down to 8oz, but its now at 12oz and it works great.

[olddav]

Still don't like the Accu trigger, at least not for hunting, but that's just my preference. As you have seen others are quite pleased. A well tuned and adjusted three screw trigger is as good as any hunter needs. I've got mine down to 2.5 lbs. Again just my preference.

[reynolds357]

Frankenmauser, I kind of like GM still using drum brakes on the rear of many of their vehicles. It is two less rotors to warp. A full size drum brake system is perfectly capable of performing in a rear brake application. Drum ABS systems work just fine, by the way.;)

[William T. Watts]

Only Savage I've owned was a model 114 Classic pretty but terrible accuracy, the barrel was past over size bore .3019" lands to lands. Only a heavy and long bullet would group, I contacted Savage about the problem and finally they contacted me and wanted to know how the rifle grouped since it had been repaired. I informed them the rifle had not been returned to the factory, rifle was shipped and returned to me with the same barrel. I could not unload the rifle fast enough, it was my first and last Savage I will ever own. The rifles in recent time that have exceeded my expectations were the Ruger Hawkeye, I have a .270 & .280 both will group under an inch, with my eyes and age that is exceptional for me anymore.. William

[BigMikey76]

I had the accutrigger on my Model 10 7-08, and I liked it just fine. Of course, I am not a bench rest shooter, and I don't do any kind of competition, so I never had the need for any high end upgrade stuff. The accutrigger is more than good enough for practical shooting. Sadly, I ended up selling that rifle to raise money for a handgun, and I must say I miss it a bit :(.

[WVMountaineer]

I like 'em. No reason not to. Every gun I own or have bought I adjust or work the trigger, then test for safety. Is it as good as one of the custom jobs? nope. But, it is dang nice to have a trigger that can be fixed to liking so easily. God Bless

[FrankenMauser]

FrankenMauser I agree with some of your points, but please tell me what other factory trigger on a standard production bolt action rifle can you adjust down into the ounces safely? I have had my Accutrigger down to 8oz, but its now at 12oz and it works great.
You are beyond the intended limits of the design.

The Accu-Triggers are only intended to be adjustable down to 24 ounces (1.5 lbs). ...Which Remingtons have been capable of since at least 1950.

[precision_shooter]

Frankenmauser:

That's not correct. As stated in previous posts, there are 2 types of accutriggers. The regular accutrigger which is adjustable down to 1.5lbs, and the precision target trigger (accutrigger) that comes on their target line of rifles such as the F class rifles which is adjustable down to 8oz. The regular accutrigger has a silver blade while the precision target trigger has a red or orange blade.

[Saltydog235]

The Accu-Triggers are only intended to be adjustable down to 24 ounces (1.5 lbs). ...Which Remingtons have been capable of since at least 1950.

Well, my 40X would adjust down to 2lbs one shot, 4 lbs the next, 1lb then 5lbs. The adjustment screw was so far out in the shoe, it took meat off my finger on the recoil. Remington triggers suck. Fact is the only saving grace on most Remington's is the action and number of parts you can replace on one. I buy a Remington these days, I put a Timney in it before I shoot the first round.

My two Savages both still have their factory triggers, the PC is set at about 1.5lbs, the other about 2. Other than the feel of the blade, they break clean with negligible overtravel.

[Pahoo]

The Accu-Triggers are only intended to be adjustable down to 24 ounces (1.5 lbs). ...Which Remingtons have been capable of since at least 1950.
Another answer to a question, not asked. ..... :rolleyes:

The OP is only asking;

Do you like the accutrigger? Why?
Do you dislike the accutrigger? Why?

Pretty simple and some have stated they like it and other do not and why. Never intended to turn a spitting contest. I personally like "all" of mine and respect other's opinion that don't. Currently the best trigger I have, is on my Ruger 10/22 but again, that question wasn't asked, as well. .... :D

Be Safe !!!

[FrankenMauser]

Pahoo, if you're capable of quoting my response, then you're capable of quoting the QUOTE included in the reply. ...A quote which WAS the question. :rolleyes: