View Full Version : Win. Model 12 ?

October 24, 2012, 01:54 AM
Ok pump gun fans, here ya go.

Did Winchester produce the Model 12 in 16 gauge with 26" bbl and full choke?

There is one for sale locally so configured. I suspect it's been cut. The muzzle bears a shiny ring and is not blued, and 26" - full does not seem right for that era.

Who knows?

October 24, 2012, 07:33 AM
yes they did.....right from the start until the late 40s or early 50s when they started cutting back on barrel/choke combinations.....measure the choke....on winchesters the standard drop in choke gauge works pretty good...

October 24, 2012, 12:47 PM
Measure the inside of the bore --- past the chamber - mid barrel if you can ...and then measure the inside of the bore at the choke end ....to make sure there still is a "choke" to the barrel.

If its been cut ....there probably will not be a "choke" to the barrel...or it might have been fit for a Cutts Compensator at some point / they were very common back in the day.

You can't just go by what the barrel says...

October 25, 2012, 10:28 AM
Yes, what bigjim said:)

old roper
October 28, 2012, 07:52 AM
It could be cut back as they made 28" pretty common


October 28, 2012, 08:37 AM
The shiny ring could be the solder left behind from a Cutts/Poly choke that was removed.

Those chokes are very good but don't add anything to the value. Actually they take away from the value. So a gun with out it would have a higher asking price than with it.

October 28, 2012, 02:23 PM
If this is like the M97's check to see if the serial number on the receiver and the barrel match.

Winchester may have phased out with putting a serial number on both (I'm too lazy to check my reference book :D) but it could very well be a take off barrel from another gun that was either cut or standard length.

old roper
October 28, 2012, 04:55 PM
I had to go pull my model 12 16ga and see what the barrel length was it's 28" full choke and has a rib serial # 91XXXX and was made 1942.

I also have model 12 20ga with rib and choke is CYL serial # 64XXXX made 1931.