View Full Version : Suggest: 1-4X scope/mount and BUIS for M4

September 17, 2012, 11:59 AM
Fixed front post, 16" barrel, flat top.

Decided I'd like a 1-4X scope/mount and a back up iron sight for an M4.

I see a lot of good options out there.

Burris, Leupold, Millet, Nikon, not sure where to begin.

I want it to be a true 1X on the low end, illumination would be nice but not an absolute necessity.

I also don't know how far out I should mount it on the rail.

For the scope/mount/BUIS, I'm looking for good quality at a reasonable price. I don't need the best but don't want junk.


Crow Hunter
September 17, 2012, 12:20 PM
I had a Trijicon TR24 in a Larue 1.93 tall mount and Troy rear BUIS.

It was kind of heavy, and I didn't like the triangle reticle at all.

Very good glass and very forgiving eye relief on 1x.

Illumination was very good during daylight hours, terrible at night.

A Matech BUIS that comes standard on a Colt 6940 will not fit under the occular lens and still allow you to open/close the light aperture for the fiber optics.

I have been eyeing the Leupold Patrol Rifle optic with fire dot. I much prefer the reticle but I haven't seen one in person to see how much heavier it is than my current setup.

ETA: Oops, scratch the Leupold it isn't a 1x.

I also like the Super Sniper:


I haven't tried it myself but the reticle is a little busy, but good and a lot of people more knowledgeable than myself like and use them.

September 17, 2012, 01:02 PM
You may have seen the pic in my response to your other AR question. I would recommend a LaRue mount. I have pulled mine off several times and it is always within a half inch of POA when remounted. It also lifts the scope high enough to clear rear BUIS if your scope requires shorter eye relief.



I went with the Leupold 1.5x5x scope only because I already had it. At 1.5x it is so close to 1x that you could use it in a close target engagement without worry (both eyes open).

Again, hope the pictures help.

September 17, 2012, 01:33 PM
^looks good^


September 18, 2012, 10:44 AM
scope and mount:


and flip up sights:


September 20, 2012, 05:37 PM
Vortex viper PST 1-4
LaRue mount
Magpul MBUS

September 20, 2012, 10:32 PM
I have a Leopoid VX-6 1-6x on my LWRC. It's really nice, no issues. That said I shot a friend Viper PST 1-4 and while its not as nice as my VX-6, its dam close. If I were to do it again I would choose the PST

September 20, 2012, 11:05 PM
Vortex Viper PST 1-4 X 24, mounted in a Larue LT-104 mount. Midwest industries SPLP front and rear folding sights.

I love this combo! Very versatile.



September 21, 2012, 10:11 AM
Some of you all have some good taste, but I'm not looking to spend a bunch.

September 21, 2012, 07:55 PM
Nikon M223 with the nikon mount. I bought mine during a promo- scope and mount under $300.


September 21, 2012, 08:19 PM
The SWFA SS 1-4x is very good. It's very capable of first shot hits to at least 300 yards (I only took it to 300).

Leupold has their VX-6 Multigun Riflescope 1-6x for $949.

I liked the Leupold VX-III 1.5x-5x with circle dot reticle. I had no trouble hitting steel at 300 with a 100 yard zero. My issue was the 1.5x slowed me down at 20 yards or closer.

Here's another:

* Leupold VX-6 1-6x24mm CDS Illuminated Reticle (includes metric)
True 1-6x


September 22, 2012, 11:54 AM
I do like my Burris 1-4x24 Extreme Tactical, that comes with a Burris 30mm P.E.B.R. mount and a Burris FastFire Red Dot sight on top, mounted on my 5.39x45 Smith & Wesson upper; though the turrent clicks are a bit mushy.

I do like the Leupold 1-6X Tactical...so much that I'm seriously considering buying one; though I think I have to buy a mount for it --- whereas --- the Burris XTR comes with the mount & rings.