View Full Version : New AR/sub-2000 (Shoot results)

August 12, 2012, 07:54 PM
Ok, the new S&W AR, DAMN that thing is loud, like 12 gauge loud, I was expecting a loud crack, not a boom.

First pull I felt like someone had slapped my left ear...

Now afterward, and the addition of ear plugs?
Man am I ever glad I purchased that thing, I could only get about 75yds from the target where I was, but at that distance swatting flies would have been a reasonable request once sighted in, amazing just at 2x! Definitely the weapon I wanted.

After about a hundred rounds of playing that chrome barrel still shines like a lightbright on flashlight up the barrel.

(BTW if Academy ever says they "bore sighted" your rifle for you, I can only surmise that is industry code for "made sure you would not hit anything")

I am not a competition marksman, hell I would rank myself as an average shooter at best with no real time behind a trigger for over 15 years, that thing just fit and shot like it knew what I wanted. After 5 rounds it was on mark, and stayed there.

I still want iron sights though (http://www.amazon.com/Magpul-MBUS-Front-Back-Up-Polymer/dp/B007FMDA1C/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_3375251_a1_2_p) seems to be my current preference.

The Sub-2000, ahem.. that is an awesome toy too... Best cheap gun purchase in history. I installed the new comp and sight from Red Lion, reflex shooting oil bottles at 25yd, and RELIABLY tagging them at 50, I would ask no more than that out of that weapon. One side question I will post in another thread on it though (HERE http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5181142#post5181142), not a worry so much as a concern.

All in all, very happy with the purchase, I cannot claim to be an authority on which brand or make is better, however I can now say with confidence that the S&W M&P .223 was well worth my money.

4 more magpul 30 rounders (will leave me 5 total) on the way just like the one that came with it. (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319370991/magpul-pmag-magazine-ar-15-223-remington-30-round-polymer) $14.20 per, could not resist that price.

August 12, 2012, 11:09 PM
Sounds like congratulations are in order for your purchases!

Nothing beats getting out and having your expectations met AND exceeded all in the same day, huh?

I don't know anything about those sights you posted a link to- I like the A3 GI type- just kinda old fashioned and funny that way I guess. I can't really say for sure whether I like whooting better with sights or with a scope, guess it really depends on what I'm doing or what I'm shooting at (targets or varmints). Sure am glad they still build those things where a guy has a choice. Ever just gander through new bolt action rifles and see how many (rather, FEW) still have sights on them? Have fun and enjoy!

August 13, 2012, 02:37 PM
I'm interesting in how you came across a sub-2000.

I'm not sure about the happenings at Kel-Tec, but the sub-2000 doesn't seem to be available and hasn't been for quite some time.

August 13, 2012, 02:54 PM
Pure serendipity!

I had been seeking one for about a month, same as everyone else, anyone that said they had them ultimately did not when it got down to purchasing.

So I was headed to a local gun dealer to look at a high point and see *if* I managed to find a sub-2000 online what they would charge me to accept the shipping.

On the way I passed a shop I did not know was there. They had a shop in town for 15+ years, but had just moved to that location.

I figured what the heck they are closer, stopped in to ask and look, lo and behold they had one, said they got two on trade in the day before and sold the other that morning.

Soooo happy I bought that one, if and when I come across another, I will probably buy it too.

August 13, 2012, 03:02 PM
I'm trying to keep my "arsenal" simple.

The Glock 9mm version of that sub 2000 ....and it's use of my common glock magazines.... is perfect.

Coltman 77
August 13, 2012, 03:28 PM
I'm sure you know this but for God's sake use ear and eye protection when shooting. ;)

August 13, 2012, 05:25 PM
Yes, it is convenient as hell to pull the clip out and stick it in the other, glock 9mm to replace my current E9 is on the near horizon.

Just buying in bulk to feed both is cool, Remington UMC 115gr FMJ, $70 per 250!

And yes, I normally have protection, just was not expecting it to be that loud!

August 14, 2012, 06:07 AM


I was hoping you'd say that there was a new flood of sub 2000's hitting the market.

August 14, 2012, 09:31 AM
I have been looking for another since I got that one.

Pickings have been real slim or overpriced for used (Although I am considering an over priced, however only if new)

If I find a deal from anyone that actually has one, and I do not buy it, I will pass it on in a new thread and be sure to let you know.