View Full Version : are we ever gonna get a civilian version of the aa 12?

July 3, 2012, 11:46 PM

psycho nut
July 4, 2012, 01:25 AM
From everything I've heard, no. I'd love one though.

July 4, 2012, 01:22 PM
Sorry, this may be as close as you're going to get to AA 12s...

Image: Cabelas

July 11, 2012, 12:45 AM
probably not ...but our military has the coolest stuff ...right

July 11, 2012, 02:16 PM
A semi-auto AA12 would be no cooler than a Benelli or Beretta Semi-Auto.

You know you aren't getting an FA one so who cares if they make it available to civvys?

July 11, 2012, 03:57 PM
The saiga 12 is just as capable, more affordable, and you can buy one right now. They won't make a civilian version because the price point and sales volumes aren't feasible.
Actually, given the fact that you are neutering the FA capabilities of the AA12, I think I'd prefer a saiga as they are much less cumbersome and offer the same level of firepower.

July 11, 2012, 10:00 PM
Forget civillian, has there been a millitary or police service that's purchased the AA-12? As near as I can tell, hollywood's been the only major purchaser of that gun.

July 14, 2012, 02:39 AM
Probably not. Open bolt semiautomatics are generally considered a big no-no.

Converting one to fire one from a closed bolt would require significant redesign efforts. Also, the low recoil likely results from open bolt operation.

If a civilian version were available, it would stand a fair chance of being classified a DD.

Dan D
July 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
As far as i'm concerned the AA12 was a solution looking for a problem from the start. Everyone I've talked to that served in the military said shotguns were only used for breaching doors and their 870's were perfectly acceptable for that.

July 17, 2012, 02:54 AM
Why not go with that new KSG that has 2 magazine tubes? That way you are getting a gun with nothing really missing from the civilian version...

July 17, 2012, 01:55 PM
or this

16 rounds of semi auto glory (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/11/01/srm-arms-16-round-semi-automatic-shotgun/)

way cooler then an aa12 imho. a local gun shop over here has them, they are surprisingly comfy

Strafer Gott
July 17, 2012, 02:02 PM
After having a SPAS 12 and a Benelli M1 Super 90, I'll stick with the Benelli.
Even the Benelli takes some practice to fully utilize. The SPAS is even tougher to gain competency. The handbook for the SPAS starts with "Honestly, have you fully read...", and they ain't kidding.

July 17, 2012, 03:08 PM
Why not go with that new KSG that has 2 magazine tubes? That way you are getting a gun with nothing really missing from the civilian version...

Because that gun was one of KelTecs epic fails of the year.

July 19, 2012, 07:13 AM
One video claimed a fin stabilized grenade with a nine foot kill zone fired through a window at a rate of 20 rounds in four seconds. Folks, that will get your attention!