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HALL,AUSTIN
June 13, 2012, 09:12 AM
I know that CCI greentag, aguila, and wolf match are pretty good. But are there any others to try for optimal performance? Or is it a try 'em all type thing?

oneounceload
June 13, 2012, 09:32 AM
Eley makes ammo that is used in the Olympics

darkroommike
June 13, 2012, 09:44 AM
Pistol or rifle? Many competition loads are a bit "dirty" for pistol use or for some auto loaders. I use a lot of CCI Blazer .22 and Federal Target bulk, CCI Mini Mags, etc.

Your gun will tell you what it likes, I have a Ruger Standard that I thought would chamber and shoot anything but it doesn't like Remington Golden hollow point bulk, it still shoots it accurately but I get frequent jams. And in a couple of my other guns, Remington has ignition issues. So in my own case I have stopped buying Remington. This isn't a blanket condemnation of Remington but it just doesn't work for me.

Again, don't buy a lot of anything, until your gun tells you what to use, I got the gift of a bulk pack of Remington Golden HP from a guy that was having more issues with it than I do. I shot the last of it yesterday, today the Standard gets a detail strip as a reward.

essohbe
June 13, 2012, 10:16 AM
Not Remmington...

;)

Smokey Joe
June 13, 2012, 11:04 AM
Hall, Austin--Most firearms tend to "like" a particular brand of ammo, or, if handloading, a particular combination of ingredients, better than some other.

Rimfires are known to be particularly picky that way.

So, you already answered your own question: Or is it a try 'em all type thing?Yep. Especially when going for a high degree of accuracy. So: You buy one box of every different .22LR you can get your hands on. Go to range and shoot a couple of targets with each one, as carefully as you can, from a good solid rest. You'll find 1 or 2 that the rifle in question does better with, than the balance of the different boxes you bought. And, it's good practice for you, too, in sight picture and trigger squeeze.

Enjoy.

Marquezj16
June 13, 2012, 11:34 AM
I've tried most of the bulk stuff. My favoritrEs are Fed Auto Match, CCI SV and Blazer. I tend to stay away from Remington, however, I tried their shurshot HV and it has worked for me.

PoorRichRichard
June 13, 2012, 11:38 AM
Not Remmington...

THIS!!!

Fireman214
June 13, 2012, 12:18 PM
I use the Federal lightning for my .22 league. It is pretty consistent through my Savage mark 2FV and it is around $1.80 a box from wally world.

rr2241tx
June 13, 2012, 12:18 PM
Tell us what you are shooting with and what you are shooting at and maybe we can narrow the list a little.

HALL,AUSTIN
June 13, 2012, 03:00 PM
Im shooting a savage mkII and usually shooting at either small game out to 50yds or one of those propane tanks that goes on the bottom of a grill from 100-150yards.

wnycollector
June 13, 2012, 08:24 PM
CCI SV

+1 on this. CCI SV is very accurate ammo that wont break the bank.

bigalshootmupper
June 13, 2012, 09:06 PM
My 10/22 only shoots Remington Golden Bullet with 100% reliability. Everything else is about 1 out of 10 jam. I have tried about 20 different varieties. These shoot not too accurate, about 3 MOA. I can get better ammo, like Win super x or Wolf match, to shoot about 1.5 MOA, which is pretty good for a 10/22. That's my 3 best 22 ammos.

wingman
June 13, 2012, 09:14 PM
Aguila match seems to give me best accuracy in various 22's.

tahunua001
June 13, 2012, 09:22 PM
american eagle bulk pack, federal bulk pack, velocitors, stingers are all good options. stay away from remington goldens, winchester 333s, and armscor.

Regolith
June 13, 2012, 09:27 PM
I've had good luck with the Federal bulk stuff.

chucknbach
June 13, 2012, 10:24 PM
Just get what ammo you want than keep buying rifles till you get one that shoots it.:)

CCI Mini Mags worked best in mine. The Velociters were slightly better at 50 but at 100yds they looked like a shotgun blast. Some of the different federals I tried weren't bad.

My daughters gun shot the CCI SV's the best.

Both of my son's gun's I haven't tested yet.

JWT
June 13, 2012, 10:32 PM
I've had no problems with CCI Blazer or Federal bulk packs and the price is right. Also been fine with Winchesters. I won't touch Remingtons, whatever waxy 'stuff' they put on 'em seems to cause problems in all my semi autos.

Casimer
June 13, 2012, 10:38 PM
SK Jagd is another brand worth checking out for match and target grade 22lr at a decent price.

But like others have stated, it's best to test a bunch of ammo. That's the only way to determine which is going to be the most accurate from your rifle.

mrangelo
June 13, 2012, 11:02 PM
I tested a lot of brands and many Eley's for my Target Pistols and rifles but every time I finish and prefer the CCI Pistol Match, hard to find but I can put 5 shots in the same hole at 25 yards with my S&W 41 and Morini CM22, also I use the same ammo for my Ruger 77-22 and at 100 yards the group is in 1/4 of an inch. No jams, no nothing.

I hate Remington ammo! And use Federal Bulk for plinking only with an AR-22

Bamashooter
June 13, 2012, 11:53 PM
I tried some winchester 1330fps hi velocity stuff the other day and wasnt impressed. Actually quite disappointed. I love CCI Mini Mags, Green Tag, Blazer, Velocitors, and Stingers. Wolf Match is very good ammo. The only bulk I really like is Federal 510 40gr. lead. There are lots of ammo I havent tried but Im satisfied with what I have available.

FiveInADime
June 13, 2012, 11:58 PM
I tested a lot of brands and many Eley's for my Target Pistols and rifles but every time I finish and prefer the CCI Pistol Match, hard to find but I can put 5 shots in the same hole at 25 yards with my S&W 41 and Morini CM22, also I use the same ammo for my Ruger 77-22 and at 100 yards the group is in 1/4 of an inch. No jams, no nothing.

I hate Remington ammo! And use Federal Bulk for plinking only with an AR-22

1/4 MOA at 100 yards!? Do you compete in smallbore benchrest matches with that thing? If you don't, then you should. One ragged hole at 100 yards with a .22LR (EVEN with an Anschutz) would be something to behold. I shot a roughly 1\4" 5-shot group with one of my .22LR at 50 yards (only once) and I was ecstatic.

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iamdb
June 14, 2012, 12:51 AM
Aguila match seems to give me best accuracy in various 22's.Aguila is Mexican ammo. When you buy it you are supporting a country that has disarmed it's law abiding citizens and has pushed lawmakers here in the US to take steps to make gun ownership illegal. Please find ammo made in a more gun friendly country.;)

Navy joe
June 14, 2012, 05:27 AM
I'm supporting a company that has the best of modern equipment, uses Eley priming and their ammo has given me great results. Besides, if they are doing a job that Americans won't do, since apparently Federal and Remington can't be bothered to make decent .22, while staying in their own country isn't that a good thing? I suspect, but can't prove that PMC .22 is made in the same factory, I had great luck with their cheap stuff, at one time $90 a case. The bulk crap, generally you get what you pay for. That my gun shot PMC sidewinder as well as Wolf, I was surprised.

I won't buy Federal .22 out of spite, I once paid good money for a bunch of expensive target ammo and it was garbage. I'm sure it's great stuff, but once bitten...

johnbt
June 14, 2012, 07:20 AM
"SK Jagd"

Lapua, makers of high-end .22 target ammo (among other things), bought SK Jagd in 1992. Lapua also owns/makes Wolf rimfire and the last time I looked it was made at the SK Jagd plant in the former East Germany. (The overall owner is the Nammo Group)

I always start ammo testing a .22 with the cheap 50-round boxes in case I get lucky and the gun loves the cheap stuff. I know most .22s are going to love the $15/box Lapua and Eley.

John

HALL,AUSTIN
June 14, 2012, 07:36 AM
So I tried all the ammo that was at my local walmart. Winchester 555, Federal auti match, Federal lightning, CCI stingers, CCI minimags, Remington subsonics, and Remington bulk whatever you call it. So far we are up to 7 different choices. It really liked the subs, with tge federal automatch being a close second. But I will have to scope the mkII to find out what it is really capable of.

wingman
June 14, 2012, 04:31 PM
While I agree with your support to purchase American made products if you check your home and any store majority of what we purchase is made in other countries, now if I could find an equal brand(accuracy) to Aquila for my rifles made in USA I would certainly buy it, but there rifle match is as good as Wolf or any others I've tried, there 60gr sniper brand will shoot dime size groups @50 yards out of my Ruger 10/22. Not a huge fan of Mexico but love there ammo.:D

iamdb
June 14, 2012, 07:49 PM
RWS Match is the best ammo I have shot. I never implied only buying American, only not buying from countries that are anti gun. I beleive the RWS stuff is made in Switzerland. PMC is South Korean. There are plenty of ammo brands higher quality than Aguila. The 60gr SS stuff is not even match ammo. I don't shoot federal rim fire ammo either. I do like Rem CBees for small game. CCI make some really good ammo as well. My favorite in the CCI line up is the "subsonic pre segmented hollow points"

I'm supporting a company that has the best of modern equipment, uses Eley priming and their ammo has given me great results. Besides, if they are doing a job that Americans won't do, since apparently Federal and Remington can't be bothered to make decent .22,
I don't appreciate the comment about the mexicans doing jobs americns won't do. Keping buying that crap if you have no principles.

I suspect, but can't prove that PMC .22 is made in the same factory,:confused: I'm glad your making educated choices Joe.... I would suggest you take a trip down there to the factory just to make sure;) Have you next of kin let me know how that works out for you:D

GunXpatriot
June 14, 2012, 11:58 PM
Quote:
Not Remmington...
THIS!!!

Much agreed. Also agreed to the CCI Blazer and Federal Bulk "value pack", I've heard good things about the champion stuff, but never used it. But with these two loads, I've had nothing short of epic groups and epic reliability. As far as the groups go, they're pretty much the "best of the worst". Very good for the ammo making them.

wingman
June 15, 2012, 07:30 AM
I don't appreciate the comment about the mexicans doing jobs americns won't do. Keping buying that crap if you have no principles.



Thank you I will continue to buy as I wish and I really appreciate your maturity in allowing me to do so.;)

Pilot
June 15, 2012, 07:35 AM
For informal target shooting, and plinking, I like Federal Automatch, Federal Bulk, and Winchester 555 pretty much in that order.

CCI SV, and Minmags, etc are a step up in both price and usually performance, but it depends on what YOUR gun likes.

FiveInADime
June 15, 2012, 04:06 PM
Both of my .22s really like CCI SV. It is easy for me to get and cheap to buy if you can find the bricks of it.

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ritepath
June 19, 2012, 06:00 PM
I've found the federal auto match to work almost as well as Eley EPS black in my shelin equiped 10/22

300 rounds or 50....pretty easy choice for me.

Tempest 455
June 19, 2012, 07:39 PM
My MKII shoots best with Green Tag or Eley. However, if you want to shoot "almost" as good for a fraction of the price, try this. Many of the match grade .22 rounds are wax coated. I coated the bullet heads of cheap CCI Blazer with carnuba auto wax and did some testing.

All of these targets are the same ammo, just coated with different things. The wax was the best. To date, best group was .900" 5 round group at 100 yards (would have been .500" without the flyer!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXqOiLZ4xUc&feature=plcp

By the way, this target was done by my 13 year old sone off a bipod and rear sand bag.


https://home.comcast.net/~ericdouthitt/DSCN8988.JPG

Achilles11B
June 20, 2012, 10:19 AM
My MkII likes CCI Mini Mags. I'm definitely in the 'try 'em all out' camp, though, yours might have a different preference. I tried Velociters and got decent groups, mine also liked Stingers quite a bit as well. Get a sample from as many as you can and hit the range.

aarondhgraham
June 20, 2012, 10:42 AM
All of my semi-auto pistols run this stuff very nicely,,,
I can't remember having a dud round with it.

I bought some Remington Golden Bullet bulk packs,,,
None of my semi's like this ammunition,,,
I get too many dud rounds per pack.

I have close to 20,000 rounds of some Remington Mil-Surp LRN,,,
This stuff leads up my semi's and revolvers too quickly,,,
But performs well in my bolt and single-shot rifles.

CCI standard Velocity is another brand I've had good experiences with,,,
It runs well in all my semi's, revolvers, and rifles.

And of course CCI MiniMags perform very well.

I know it's accepted knowledge that each .22 gun likes different ammunition,,,
But as far as accuracy goes that has not been my experience at all,,,
If the stuff goes off at all it seems to have the same accuracy.

Some brands run cleaner than the others do,,,
But the accuracy (group size) seems the same to me.

I run the Federal in almost all of my handguns,,,
The Remington Mil-Surp in my bolt rifles,,,
And the CCI MiniMags in my mouse-guns.

The Remington Golden Bullet sits on the shelf due to all the dud rounds.

Aarond

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FiveInADime
June 20, 2012, 04:47 PM
My MKII shoots best with Green Tag or Eley. However, if you want to shoot "almost" as good for a fraction of the price, try this. Many of the match grade .22 rounds are wax coated. I coated the bullet heads of cheap CCI Blazer with carnuba auto wax and did some testing.

All of these targets are the same ammo, just coated with different things. The wax was the best. To date, best group was .900" 5 round group at 100 yards (would have been .500" without the flyer!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXqOiLZ4xUc&feature=plcp

By the way, this target was done by my 13 year old sone off a bipod and rear sand bag.


https://home.comcast.net/~ericdouthitt/DSCN8988.JPG

This makes very good sense. In fact, if you buy blazer in 500rd bricks instead of the loose bulk packs, there IS wax on the bullets just like the SV and Green Tag! The bricked Blazer ammo is what i shoot out of my semi-auto guns and it works great with extremely good accuracy. Not Quite as good as SV or Green Tag but when I am plinking the difference is too small to notice.

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Slamfire
June 21, 2012, 02:41 PM
I asked the 2010 Small Bore Prone Iron sight champ, Charles Kemp, a rookie question, basically like yours" What is the best ammunition" and he told me in no uncertain terms there was no such thing, that you have to test each brand and each lot in your rifle.

And I believe him.


Charles tests a lot of ammunition, his favorite that year, in his rifle, his best was one lot of Red Box Tennex. He said it shot a consistent ten shot group, at 100 yards, of 0.38". Which is amazing.


I have tested cheaper commercial stuff, ammunition like "Rem Match", Federal Lightning’s, etc, what shoots best in a low cost rifle depends on the low cost rifle. When you shoot good match ammunition in a cheap barrel you won't see much improvement in group size, but when you shoot good match ammunition in a good to match barrel, you will see smaller groups and it is noticeable.

I have chronographed the cheap stuff and match ammunition and you can see the consistency over the screens with match ammunition, the ES’s and SD’s are very low.

I shoot RWS, Tennex Black Box, Wolf, Lapua Midas Plus and have won matches with all of them.

You just have to test the stuff, just as Charles said.

Tempest 455
June 21, 2012, 07:11 PM
Ditto. Red Box Tenex has been most accurate in my rifle as well, hands down. as well it should for $20/box.

My goal w/ the above was, what "cheap" ammo shoots good with some tweaking. I can spend less than a 20 round box of Red Tenex on 500 rounds of Blazer (w/ wax) and shoot pretty close.

Boncrayon
June 24, 2012, 09:40 AM
Good is what shoots consistantly accurate in your firearm without jams. Some rifles and pistols like certain ammo. My High Standard Sprot King .22LR does not like Remington. I switched to Federal Premium with no problems.

m_liebst
June 26, 2012, 09:38 PM
Not Remmington...


AGREED!

Remington rimfire as of now a days is some of the worse- loose/ dirty/ unreliable crap you can buy! Some of their centerfire is crap too.


Stick with CCI, Eley, n Fiocchi for a very reliable rimfire:)