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pwrstrkd
June 5, 2012, 01:57 PM
Rem 700... The barrel is closer to one side of the stock then the other, and it is bothering me. Its not actually tocuhing the stock anywhere, but I cant get it perfectly center. It is still free floated with the hs stock but no matter what I do as soon as I tighten the action screws, which I do evenly and proper torque, it pulls itself to the right slightly. Is this a problem, or how can I solve it? Thanks

Art Eatman
June 5, 2012, 02:25 PM
"It is still free floated with the hs stock..." So far, so good.

Okay, so how does it do for group size, as is?

pwrstrkd
June 5, 2012, 02:27 PM
I havent shot it yet, its jsut cosmetics... but I dont understand why it sits perfect until I tighten it up and then it pulls itself over slightly. I follow proper torque and tighten evenly.

g.willikers
June 5, 2012, 03:27 PM
It kind of sounds like the screw holes in the stock are slightly off center, or drilled at an angle.
Or maybe there's a burr or rough spot of some kind, either on the stock or on the barrel, causing the shift when the screws are tightened.

Bart B.
June 5, 2012, 05:24 PM
That's often caused by the stock's cutout for the receiver being a bit off center. It can also happen if the stock's warped such that the fore end's curved a bit to one side.

Simplest fix is to use medium then fine sandpaper on the tight side to remove material that's too close to the barrel, Then apply a decent finish to it.

20thru45
June 5, 2012, 06:09 PM
If the screws become bent from recoil and loosness they can force a receiver in an ocillation upon tightening. I've seen that happen.

Scorch
June 5, 2012, 06:25 PM
This type of thing is usually caused by the bedding in the stock either having a small burr or lump in it, or it is slightly out of round. Not an issue, really. You might need to put a spot of bedding material in it if you can't get it to settle in.

Salmoneye
June 5, 2012, 07:09 PM
I havent shot it yet, its jsut cosmetics...

I've got a Marlin 1894 that drives me nuts cuz the forend has more wood on one side of the barrel than on the other side...

So I just don't look at it from that angle any more...

:cool:

hooligan1
June 6, 2012, 06:35 AM
I have a brand new B&C Duramaxx, that lined my 110 action up that way. I even sent it to B&C and they sent it back and said it was fine!:eek: It now sit's with some other stocks in the corner awaiting to become a $145.00 lamp:mad:(it's for sale)

jmr40
June 6, 2012, 06:50 PM
I had a similar issue with a B&C stock. The holes in the stock did not line up with the holes in the action. It was impossible to even get all 3 screws in. It was only off buy about 1/16". I just drilled the holes in the stock slightly oversize and all worked out OK.

I responded to your post on the highroad as well, but just to emphasize here. Sanding the barrel channel is not going to fix your problem. That would be like hearing a strange noise coming from under your hood and fixing it by turning up the volume on your radio.

The problem is with bedding the action in the stock. Get that corrected and the barrel will line up in the stock. Sanding one side of the stock will leave equal gaps on each side of the barrel, but will leave much more stock material on one side than the other and still not fix the problem.

603Country
June 6, 2012, 09:18 PM
I guess you could bend the barrel till it centered in the stock. OR...maybe get a new stock. Or...just be happy with the one you have. As I tell my wife, "review your reasonable options".

jmr40
June 7, 2012, 07:16 AM
Just shoot it first. If it shoots good, then all is good. If not then start looking for a solution.

tobnpr
June 9, 2012, 01:10 PM
Sounds to me like the inletting in the stock is "off". Assuming it's a new stock...

For the $$ spent on an H-S stock, I would contact them, send them a pic.

I would request a replacement. Why should you screw around with "fixing" a new aftermarket stock? Let the manuf. repair, or replace.

hooligan1
June 9, 2012, 01:26 PM
How right you are tobnpr, I had to do some minor inletting on that B&C, and according to all the reviews on MidwayUSA, everybody had to. So I whittled away what I thought would help line it up and let the action drop down into it, I never could get any resemblance of a nice match up, so I called Midway and they said send it to B&C for their techs to fix it,,,, hell three days later it came back exactly like I sent it. :eek:so I called them on the phone and they said it was fine...:confused::(:mad::rolleyes: so now it's a lampstand!:cool:

Jimro
June 9, 2012, 03:04 PM
If you have this problem it is an action bedding problem.

You need to drill out the action holes, tape up the barrel so that it is oversized, then bed the barreled action into the stock. This is the time to bed in pillars as well. It is a simple process with a lot of steps, so get familiar with it before you try.

If you do it right, the barreled action touches nothing but bedding compound, and everything lines up correctly.

Jimro

tobnpr
June 9, 2012, 03:17 PM
If you have this problem it is an action bedding problem.

Not so.

H-S Precision stocks have integral aluminum bedding blocks.

No bedding (some guys skim-bed, it's debatable) is needed, or possible.

jmr40
June 9, 2012, 03:20 PM
This is an aftermarket synthetic stock with a full aluminum bedding block. You are right, it is bedding problem, but it needs to go back to the manufacturer. No need for pillars

Jimro
June 10, 2012, 03:57 PM
tobnpr,

The OP didn't mention brand of stock in this thread. Remingtons even come with that new fangled fancy stuff called "wood" I've been told. Other replies have talked about "warped" forends (which don't generally happen with HS Precision stocks as resin impregnated fiber composites are very stable).

Either way, it is a bedding problem, as the receiver is torqued down it is twisting in the bedding. The way to fix that is as I described, open up the holes and add pillars. This creates a custom fit between the stock and action which results in no torquing action when the receiver is mated to the stock.

The tolerances allowed by the stock maker and the tolerances allowed by Remington don't always stack nicely for the end user. It happens, with all sorts of rifles.

Jimro

tobnpr
June 10, 2012, 08:15 PM
He did mention that it is an "HS" stock in his orginal post.

One of us is incorrect; I don't own an H-S Precision stock, but I have never seen a stock with an integral aluminum bedding block that required pillars. They are machined as part of the block.

Either the block itself is mis-aligned in the stock as JMR said, or the barrel inletting is off.

Either way, it's a new high-end stock and if it were mine, it would go back to the factory.

Jimro
June 11, 2012, 07:09 AM
I agree if the stock was made improperly it should be replaced. However it sounds like the stock was made just fine and it is a "tolerance stack" issue between the stock and the action. In the perfect world of cad/cam design all mating surfaces are machined true. The the messy world of reality, surfaces are machined to +/- tolerances and sometimes they stack in an unpleasing manner.

Odds are the rifle shoots just fine as is, so I don't expect either Remington or HS Precision to do much to fix the issue. If the OP wanted to fix the issue, the rifle bedding has to be addressed. Personally I'd shoot it and see if it had acceptable accuracy, and if so live with it.

Jimro

eldorendo
June 12, 2012, 11:50 AM
I have a brand new B&C Duramaxx, that lined my 110 action up that way. I even sent it to B&C and they sent it back and said it was fine! It now sit's with some other stocks in the corner awaiting to become a $145.00 lamp(it's for sale)

Wouldn't it be more satisfying and cost-efficient to just get some medication and therapy for that OCD?? :cool:

hooligan1
June 12, 2012, 01:40 PM
heheheheh........wanna buy it eldorado?:p