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baddarryl
May 23, 2012, 08:25 AM
Hi. I have been contemplating getting a Henry youth model .22 for my kids. A regular size .22 is still a bit large for them to shoot comfortably. What alternatives are out there to the Henry lever action youth? Seems like a nice gun, but still curious. Not really concerned about action type. I would also like to scrounge up an old gem on the used market if I knew what to look for.

Justin Appleseed
May 23, 2012, 09:20 AM
I let my daughter handle several guns in the .22 cal to see not only what fit good, but what she liked.. It will make it more special, Its her gun! She picked it out! Plus She can't wait for the next time out to the range every time! Even if you bring it down to 2-3 guns that you like? let him pick! IMHO it's worth the love you get in the end!

HK 416 Tactical Rimfire .22

http://img.tapatalk.com/4ac5d67d-f071-6f64.jpg

Justin Appleseed
May 23, 2012, 09:22 AM
Oh.. And I just noticed the balloons in the case... Makes it fun starting out.. Instead of a 1" circle, the water balloons at 25 and 50 yards make it more entertaining for the kids.

Buzzdoc
May 23, 2012, 09:28 AM
I have a CZ 452 Scout that just fits my 7 year old. That rifle is a tack driver. I shoot gumballs off of the tree at 50 yards for fun.

I also have a Sig Sauer P522. It's a blast to shoot. With the stock collapsed, my 4 year old can even shoot it pretty well.

I don't own one (yet), but the Browning BL-22 Micro Midas is beautiful gun that feels nice and well made- haven't done anything other than fondle it, tho

stu925
May 23, 2012, 09:50 AM
There are several youth sized bolt actions out there from a variety of manufacturers. I picked up a used Marlin Model 15YN for about $75 a few months ago at a gun show. It's a single shot bolt action which I thought would be perfect for my boys. Marlin doesn't catalog the Model 15 on their website, but they do list a model XT-22Y which might be a good choice also.

Stu

PetahW
May 23, 2012, 12:02 PM
Besides the Youth levergun, Henry markets a Youth model single-shot "Mini" boltgun,

http://www.henryrepeating.com/images/rifles/h005-minibolt-details.jpg

http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-minibolt.cfm

as does Savage (Cub Mini)

http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_222367_999_01?rgn=0,0,434,81&scl=1.1421052631578947&fmt=jpeg&id=2ORntp3tZ8hkeQ27_oRBod

http://www.cabelas.com/single-shot-savage-arms-cub-mini-youth-22-single-shot-rimfire-rifle-3.shtml

& Rogue River (Crickett & Chipmunk).

http://www.crickett.com/shop_by_brand.php?manufacturers_id=27

http://www.crickett.com/fly_thumb.php?img=images/ksa300-walnut-adult-stock-crickett-w-blued-barrel.jpg&w=330&h=82

T/C now also makes a break-open "Hot Shot" .22 single-shot that's looks like a miniature Contender for less then $200.

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/images/silosDetail/3400.jpg

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/youth_hot_shot.php

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HKGuns
May 23, 2012, 07:43 PM
Last weekend I bought my 5 year old grand daughter a pink cricket. She's not shot it yet, but it fits her very well and she loves the color. It was pretty inexpensive as well.

silvrjeepr
May 23, 2012, 10:42 PM
My daughter has a pink cricket also. She loves the thing.

Chuck Dye
May 23, 2012, 11:31 PM
I met a family at the range one day that had cut down their rifle's stock to short enough for their youngest kid. They bought a universal plastic butt plate from Brownell's and ground it to fit. As kiddo grew, the thin plastic was replaced with successively thicker recoil pads. When the rifle was too short for the kid, he receive a new rifle and the cut down rifle, complete with its set of recoil pads, was passed along within the family. I had the pleasure of meeting boys seven and eight years old, the fourth generation.

The stocks of most .22s taper to the butt. The original butt plate will not cover the cut. It is best to makes some measurements and get the Brownell's plate before making the cut.

Take a good look at lace on cheek pieces. Small faces must get up off most stocks to align an eye with irons sights, even higher off the stock for a scope. A "cheek weld" is a real part of marksmanship.

If you have a 'smith do the initial cut, make sure he understands that the cut is to get the correct length of pull with the thin plastic butt plate. The 'smith my friend entrusted the honorary nephew's Savage MkII to did not have the thin plate, so he cut for a 1½" recoil pad, leaving no chance for the stepwise increase offered by successively thicker pads. The Boyd's replacement stock, bought when kiddo grew, cost about 60% of what I paid for the rifle. While poor communication and incompetence are the probable causes of the problem, not fraud, I feel ripped off.

mr.t7024
May 24, 2012, 07:05 AM
enough choices have been listed, pick one and enjoy.:) Cliff

4V50 Gary
May 24, 2012, 07:08 AM
Chipmunk/Crickett or some other bolt gun. Semis can result in spray n pray.

KevK.
May 26, 2012, 08:40 PM
I just recently bought a used Henry Lever .22 Youth for my son. There were a few deciding factors.

It will shoot .22, .22 short, and .22 lr.

He's still in love with the wild west and getting him a lever action would just be too fun for him.

He's a lefty, and left handed youth rifles are not easy to come buy. I know, I could have ordered him one, but once I saw it I knew it was for him. I know he'll still have shells ejecting across his body, but he can operate the lever left handed.

I think a semi-auto would be a bad idea for his first gun. I want him to learn to take his time and make each shot count.

oneoldsap
May 27, 2012, 12:58 PM
I'd suggest finding a used Marlin 15Y , they are a good solid gun and will last through several beginners ! The Henry's are way over priced , and the rest of them are just plain flimsy .

chucknbach
May 27, 2012, 01:19 PM
Get one that doesn't have to stay a single shot. The 3 I know about are
1. CZ Scout http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-452-scout/
2. Mossberg Half pint http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?ID=38&section=products
3. Savage youth http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=60703&index=1&mfg=Savage+Arms&mdl=Mark+II&cat=2&type=Rifle&cal=22LR&fin=&sit=&pid=&inv=

Stay away from the Half pint it's a piece of crap! Don't know about the Savage.

22-rimfire
May 28, 2012, 02:51 PM
I would buy the CZ 452 Scout (bolt action). It has excellent iron sights, is known for very good accuracy, is very dependable, and has a nice solid feel. It comes as a single shot, but you can use regular CZ magazines for it which makes it essentially the same as the 452, 453, 455 in terms of magazine capacity.

I would skip over guns like the cricket or Chipmunk. The Savage Youth model would be of some interest to me since I own a Mark II that is very accurate. If I were looking exclusively for a single shot, I would give the TC Hot Shot a strong look for a young person. But I think they'd out grow it quickly.

stevelyn
May 29, 2012, 06:31 AM
It just so happens that the enemy camp has done most of your work for you and compiled a list of yoot guns. I noticed the Cricket is missing from list and they admit that it's probably not complete, but it's a good start.

http://www.vpc.org/studies/22ap.htm

I'm sure their intent was NOT to make your shopping easier, but you may want to shoot them an email thanking them for being useful idiots. :D

baddarryl
May 31, 2012, 10:31 PM
Is that CZ small enough for a small framed 8 year old? It is a stretch on my Marlin 831T.

chucknbach
June 2, 2012, 01:09 AM
Is that CZ small enough for a small framed 8 year old? It is a stretch on my Marlin 831T.

Yes. It has a 12" LOP. My son has had his since he was 5. The Scout is heftier than the ultra lite Cricket But they both have the same LOP.

chucknbach
June 3, 2012, 10:36 AM
I was mistaken. Was at the gun store yesterday and put a scout and cricket side by side. The cricket had about a 1/2" shorter LOP. Both manufactures are claiming 12" LOP.:confused: