View Full Version : The rest of the story !

January 25, 2012, 06:01 PM

I couldn't find a post on the original story given by the woman.This new story gets her in serious trouble.
Not knowing if the man was actually the guilty one .
Firing the gun to show it's real ! [and not a pink Barbie gun ! :rolleyes:]
There are many other ways she could have handled the situation but anger ruled her instead .

January 25, 2012, 06:19 PM
I cant believe that a prosecutor could be that stupid. where does she think that bullet might end up? They should give her the Maximum.

January 26, 2012, 12:08 AM
Wow.......stupid stupid stupid.

If you can't sleep, there's a pill for that
If you don't like the way you look, there's a surgery for that
If you don't like the way your gun fits, there's a new holster for that
If you're stupid........well you're stuck, good luck with that one.

January 26, 2012, 12:51 AM
According to the report, she's 37 and was an ADA 1989-94.
Now, I know I'm getting older and ADA's are looking younger and younger, but a 14yr old ADA?
If the reporter got THAT wrong, imagine what else she got wrong.

Underage drinking, pink gun, harmless (though annoying) pranks, firing a gun with no intent to destroy, etc, etc.. So many stupid things going on in that neighborhood. Glad I don't live there!

January 26, 2012, 02:25 AM
How would some others say they would've handled it any differently? C'mon I don't see that really too bad myself! What I'f she shot into the ground?

January 26, 2012, 08:04 AM
Makes no difference she fired the gun therefore reckless endangerment !

January 26, 2012, 08:19 AM
Might make those who have pink or purple guns rethink a bit... I'd love to have seen the look on his face though. In a way I understand what she did, no matter how stupid it was (especially in NY).

Glenn E. Meyer
January 26, 2012, 11:01 AM
Unfortunately, there are cases where the pranking kids have been killed. I know one where a teenage boy went up to the door to apologize for such and got his head blown off with a twelve gauge (that just went off by itself). Homeowner got some kind of misdemeanor killing a person deal.

January 26, 2012, 11:33 AM
It will be interesting to see how this one turns out...

January 26, 2012, 11:50 AM
Released without bail?
For violent gun crimes?
Ain't Long Gi-land under NYC gun laws?
Pretty serious discrimination and poor use of discretion...


January 26, 2012, 12:36 PM
How would some others say they would've handled it any differently? C'mon I don't see that really too bad myself! What I'f she shot into the ground?

I personally saw a windshield blown out from someone who thought they were safely shooting into the ground. The bullet ricocheted off a small rock. There was no reason for firing that shot.

January 26, 2012, 12:58 PM

January 26, 2012, 03:44 PM
She lives in Nassau Co not NYC !

January 26, 2012, 06:19 PM
Speeding and recklessly discharging a fire "to prove its real" are two totally different beasts.

January 26, 2012, 06:56 PM
farmerboy this is the kind of stupid and reckless conduct that gives all gun owners a black eye. Being angry and frustrated is not justification for using a weapon. I am not saying she should be given life in the electric chair, but a verbal reprimand by the responding officer would not be a reasonable response.

January 26, 2012, 07:10 PM
Let me see what my mind comes up with here.

(Lady is upset after several times ding dong gone is pulled on her. She wathces the door. and an athleticly built teen rings the bell and attempts to run. Woman opens door and conversation and action occour.)

(Woman) "Stop or I will shoot you little punk! I am tired of this crap you keep doing. Leave my effing house alone."

(Teen aged male) "Yo F*#@ you B*&$#! that a'itn even a real gun ho! Oh I will come over there and rape you while your kids watch. You ain't gonna do squat."

(Woman) Points gun at ground pulls trigger, and gun goes boom, and brings it up to level.

Seems like a likely scenario to me

Rember the teen had been drinking beer with neighbors, and was probably trying to look tough in front of everyone on the block.

January 26, 2012, 07:24 PM
Well, "Hell hath no fury".

Somehow I don't like seeing the punk getting off easier than the woman he ticked off. Blew her cool? Yes. But firing the gun into the ground after being threatened with rape and the murder of her family, while extreme, does show some restraint.

In that leberal bastion of the country, a 5 yr. old girl can get suspended for bringing a little pink squirt gun to school because a bureaucratic gas bag administrator has to send a message. Too bad a message can't be sent to the little punks who started it all.

January 26, 2012, 08:08 PM

January 26, 2012, 08:44 PM
Even with florida's castle and stand your ground leanings, detaining with lethal weapons isn't allowed in cases of ding dong ditch as it isn't exactly a violent felony by definition... What went down after premature display, imho, is akin to the consequences in other situations where excessive or premature use of force makes matters not as clear when the threat level escalates (often due to the premature use or display of force) up to where the use of that force would have been likely justified.


January 26, 2012, 10:28 PM
The kids didn't actually say they were going to rape and kill anyone, she made that up. Read the article. She changed her story.

January 27, 2012, 03:05 PM
Even if he did not threaten the rape. I am guessing that the young male probably said somehting about the gun not being real, and the woman fired it into the ground showing not only was it real, that she also meant buisness.

Sounds to me more like dicharge of a fire arm in city limits. A misdemenor. As far as the other chages I doubt they stick.

Remeber she is an attorney. I am sure she will have a very good attorney to represent her, and the case will either be a pla for a misdemenor, or dropped.

January 27, 2012, 03:26 PM
I am really surprised at some of the responses here. First of all it was never stated that she fired into gun ground. She said she fired to the right of him towards the ground and god only knows where the shot landed. She has kids in the house. She should not have gone outside to accost him them. She should have called 911 and kept her gun ready behind locked doors. It was an irresponsible act that just the gives the anti gun crowd more ammunition.

January 27, 2012, 04:41 PM
Im sorry but idiots like this give us responsible gun owners a bad image also people on anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds should not be allowed two own or posses a firearm of any kind due to lack of judgement as seen in the new york post above

January 27, 2012, 05:05 PM
anti depressant meds and no gun? well if you do anti depressant meds then you need to do all the other meds to be fair, high blood pressure, and next will be vitamins, herbs and just keeps going. Why do you just say they need to take all guns from law abiding citizens and leave the others alone because thats where this would go.

January 27, 2012, 08:06 PM
While I think comparing psychotropic drugs to vitamins and high blood pressure meds is silly, I think a policy arbitrarily forbidding anyone who uses some form of mild mood enhancing drug from owning guns is a very dangerous and slippery slope. Based on usage, it is a good bet that there are many TFL members in that category.

January 27, 2012, 08:10 PM
I think a policy arbitrarily forbidding anyone who uses some form of mild mood enhancing drug from owning guns is a very dangerous and slippery slope. Based on usage, it is a good bet that there are many TFL members in that category.

Hope you're not drinking Pepsi, coffee, or tea, else you're taking a mood-enhancing drug, caffeine!

January 27, 2012, 10:21 PM
My oldest daughter has ADHD. She was taking Stratera and then a combination of Stratera and Ritalin, and then her doctor recomended adding Prozac. I was shocked I said "Prozac is for depression!" Her doctor said it wasn't just to treat depression and that it would probably help her in school.

She's now on Stratera, Adderal and Prozac and she's doing fairly well in school - she is 11, in advanced math and took the ACT last month and got a remarkable score on it.

She's also learning to shoot.

I hope someday that she enjoys shooting as much as I do, I do worry that if they instituted questions on a FOID or CWL "Have you ever taken or been prescribed any of the following drugs: ___________ " I'm sure Prozac would be at the top of the list, and I'd hate for her to be denied the right to buy firearms because she once took a small dose of Prozac for ADHD.

January 28, 2012, 12:30 AM
You don't point guns at people. Call the cops, thats what they're there for.

January 28, 2012, 02:27 AM
Betterdays , i got alot to say about that stupid comment
but I'll choose to keep them to myself for once. I know if I said what I'm thinking I'll have an admin wanting to boot me off here (again). Just to prove a point about human intelligence go back and reread two comments and you'll see how some people think and then you'll know that with ones like this no wonder our country in going in the direction it is.

January 28, 2012, 07:36 AM
You don't point guns at people. Call the cops, thats what they're there for.

And what do you expect the police to do?

January 28, 2012, 08:43 AM
In summary, the doorbell rang 3 times around 11pm and she answered each time to find no-one there.
After the 3rd time, she goes outside with a 9mm.
She fires the weapon.
Minutes later a teenager walks down the street and she holds him at gun point. Police arrive and arrest her. And she is 47 y.o.


Frank Ettin
January 28, 2012, 11:16 AM
Bottom line is that a gun is not a tool of universal application. Lethal force may justifiably be used only in a fairly narrow range of circumstances.

It appears that this woman got her gun and fired it when she had no reason recognized as good under the applicable law. If that's the case, she's going to be in a bunch of legal trouble.

The thing is, how well do you understand when you may lawfully use lethal force?

January 28, 2012, 12:22 PM
even attorneys can be bit by the stupid bug, and one took a big chunk out of her.

January 30, 2012, 04:57 PM
Now if there was a paper bag and if it was indeed on fire.......

How would some others say they would've handled it any differently?

I would not fire upon someone was ringing the doorbell. Is this some new form of threat now?

I would have turned the dogs loose. Oops sorry bout that, shouldnt have been on the porch.....