rem 700 sps varmint stock replacement

[kmaysob]

hey guys, im wanting to replace the stock on my 700. i found one i like on boydes gun stocks.com. im looking at the ross varmint thumb hole. now they do not list one for the sps. adl and bdl only. i have heard the bdl stock is what i want. its supposed to be made for a heavy barrel but says some fitting is required. my question is, has anyone used this on their rifle and just how much fitting is required? am i gonna spend a weekend just trying to get the action to fit before bedding? how about the barrel? theyre stocks do come unfinished correct? planning to float the barrel and do a full glass with pillar bedding job. im pretty happy with the trigger so far , but may eventually go to the timiney trigger. finally started developing some loads for it this last week, i plan to shoot them tomorrow and make note of what shoots best. gonna have a good ot check coming my way, so im planning on a harris bipod and a replacement stock asap. any advise / info is greatly appreciated

[Jager247]

if your dead set on the boyds then get it, there isnt much fitting needed, you would only need to pillar bed it. if i remember right the one with the varmint barrel channel is the one you want.

i put a H S precision on my 700 varmint 308. it is already bedded. its the same stock that comes on the police model.

[kmaysob]

Im Not dead set on the boydes. Open to suggestions. I really like the design of the boydes though. I was looking at the varments model. So am i correct to assume i want to buy for a bdl?

[nimbleVagrant]

yeah, you're looking for a short action BDL stock with heavy "bull" barrel channel.

Are you looking specifically for a wood stock?

[kmaysob]

Would prefer wood. Again open to recommendations

[tobnpr]

Here ya go:
http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-LAMINATED-WOOD-cln-Thumbholes/Categories

[warbirdlover]

I've just put a Boyd's on my Ruger 77 MkII and it was "drop in" except I had to open the smallest part of the barrel channel up just a tad. I used a socket that fit in the channel with sandpaper wrapped around it and just took it easy until I got it. No work at all. The Boyd's is completely finished externally and comes with sling swivels. I paid the extra $55 for the laser checkering. Here's a pic of mine. Worth every penny. Also a link to a barrel bedding tool that would really make this a piece of cake. If you have a SPS the BDL (with floorplate) model would be the one, short action or long action (whatever you have).

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=6796/Product/BARREL-BEDDING-TOOL

[kmaysob]

Thanks guys, it will be atleast a week before i order , so ill do some more lookin. I suppose while ive got this post up, ill ask another question. Looking to get a new recoil pad. Ive always heard limbsaver was the way to go, but recently i read some reviews that basically said theyre great for the first year or so and they start to fall apart. This has me questioning the limb saver. Anything better out there?

[warbirdlover]

Yes, the Packmyr decelerator.

[ronl]

I put my SPS into one of the Bell&Carlson Medalist A3 stocks. Great stock. Dropped right in and reduced group size signifigantly.

[kmaysob]

tobnpr: thanks for the link. im very tempted into the cobalt blue/ grey or the safari color.

[kmaysob]

thanks for all the info guys, im headed out of town for two weeks of work, ill order this when i get back. ive been developing loads for this thing over the last week or so. went and shot them this morning and was quite impressed with 2 of the three loads i tried. gonna play with the charges a little. i do think the new stock should help a bit, as it will be a better fit and should be a little easier to use. looking at both the boydes and the stockeys , they are all laminated. this isnt something i should be concerned with is it?

[warbirdlover]

Laminated wood doesn't "move" (grow or shrink) compared to a solid wood blank which changes your POI and is much stronger. Maybe very slightly but hardly noticeable.

[tobnpr]

For best results, bed the action and install pillars when you can. Be sure the barrel is free-floated...

[kmaysob]

good to know on the laminated stock. i do plan to pillar bed and free float before it gets permenantly installed. cant wait, sucks i gotta be out of town as long as i do. if i can play my cards right the stock and bedding kit will be waiting on my door step when i get home. with 5 days off i should be able to get it done. was planning to pick this kit up http://www.midwayusa.com/product/502904/score-high-deluxe-pillar-bedding-kit-remington-700-brown

[kmaysob]

stock, bipod, and pillar/ glass bedding kit is on the way! ill have to post some pics when i get it done.

[Bailey Boat]

Why not TRY it before you go to all of the extra work of bedding, etc. etc. etc????
You do realize the weight of a laminated stock vs regular wood or composite???? If you have only bench plans for the gun then it won't be an issue but if it's to be carried afield, look out!!!

[kmaysob]

its a bench gun, its really too heavy to carry in the field with the factory stock. once i add the new stock, bed it,and add a vx3 it will be quite heavy.

[kmaysob]

im guessing 10-11 lbs with the vx3 , the new stock , and the harris

[kmaysob]

got it all bedded this weekend. weighed it tonight without scope but with bipod on it. 10lbs on the money

[mrawesome22]

Pics man! :)

[kmaysob]

heres some

[kmaysob]

the one with the scope on it is my new .17 hmr i picked up this weekend. the .308 is scopeless for two weeks

[kmaysob]

heres some pics with the new scope

[AFman]

Any recommendations? Like the Bell and Carlson, but don't see an ADL option.

[kmaysob]

i went with the boyds. im very happy with it and it cost less than the bell and carlson. boyds has several different designs and they do have them for the adl

[uncyboo]

I have several Boyd's now and am liking them alot. All have "dropped in" as they said it would, so inletting is pretty good. I am going to bed them all anyway, so close will work, and a good pillar/bedding job will just solidify the setup.

[kmaysob]

i pillar bedded mine as soon as i got it. have yet to shoot it, but im sure it will shoot nice.

[AFman]

You got me interested in the Boyd's Varmint Thumbhole:

http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/VT-REMINGTON-700-ADL-SA-p/660-711.htm

It appears to be a beauty and at a great price!

The description of the stock contains "Bull Barrel Channel" which is a bit confusing when you read the additional info under the "Read prior to ordering":

"Varmint Contour: - called out as BBC on the models we offer. These are generally a heavy contoured barrel that can be put into our Ross FT design stock. You cannot fit a varmint barrel into our JRS sporter stock unless you are willing to give up the 'flats' or rails on the top and sides of the forend. The stock will be safe to use but cosmetically unpleasing to look at. The Ross Ft will allow this contour but Flats or rails will be narrow at forend tip.

Bull Barrel: This barrel is usually a straight contour, usually 1" or 1.250" in diameter. Inletting of barrel channel will be needed on our BBC stocks or on our heavier forend stocks i.e. Varmint Thumbhole."

Not totally familiar with the lingo, but it sounds like the standard, factory varmint barrel on the 700 ADL should fit (with potentially minimal fitting) the bull barrel channel on this stock. Sound right?

Also, I'm not real familiar with the bedding required to get max accuracy out of this stock. How difficult is it to bed the action to this stock? Ie, what is required and is it even necessary based on your experiences? They also offer the "ACRAGLAS GEL GLASS BEDDING KIT by BROWNELLS" kit for $25.


Thx!
Steve

[kmaysob]

i have the varmint thumbhole stock, i can tell you its a very good fit. my 700 has the heavy varmint barrel, and it slipped right in the stock and was very well free floated.

i used this bedding kit http://www.midwayusa.com/product/502904/score-high-deluxe-pillar-bedding-kit-remington-700-brown

came with everything needed and included a very helpful instructional dvd.

my advise would be to bed with a dirty gun. i left mine dirty as a just incase, boy was i glad i did. i managed to drip a little epoxy into the chamber. i thought for sure i had just ruined a rifle, but beings that it was still dirty and oily it came right out.

i didnt try the stock before i bedded it. there was no real point for me, im driving for max accuracy to start with. this was my first bedding job and i would do it again in a heart beat.

[uncyboo]

i managed to drip a little epoxy into the chamber.

How in the world did that happen? :eek:







just a little poke in the ribs buddy.....

[kmaysob]

well....., you fill all the places you dont want epoxy with clay, the instructions said nothing and i too missed the " chamber pressure relief hole" (idk what the proper term is) so when i layed the rifle upside down over night to cure some of it creeped in the hole, and into the chamber.

believe me, i almost had heart failure when i saw it, luckily it came out with zero effort.