identify old shot gun

[perchkid]

Need to identify old double barrel, 2 trggers, 2 hammers. The only name or numbers i can find are numbers. The numbers are under the removable forearm and are 209789.

[zippy13]

Greetings perchkid and welcome aboard.

You've described a boat load of different old shotguns, how about some pics.

[oneounceload]

Your question is like me saying: "I have this car, it has four ties - what type of car is it?

As Zippy mentioned, pics will help a LOT, especially of the proof marks - if any

[perchkid]

here are some pictures. I cant find any identifing mark. 75035

75036

75037

[oneounceload]

So, no marks on the underside of the barrels or on the water table (the flat portion of the action the barrels sits on?

In your photo of the left side, there is SOMETHING written/engraved, but I can't make it out - looks like at least two words/names starting with an "A" and then an "N" - looks like New York for the second line
The A part also looks like it has "Co" after it, so A(name) Co, New York
The stock is thrashed with too many cracks to be shootable, even if the action was able

Without proof marks, I would guess it is US, not European
a nice wall hanger in any event

[perchkid]

Thanks oneounceload, any approx. year maybe manufactured?

[krimmie]

I'm not good at editing, but I can see New York faintly on the bottom.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s274/krimgeo/026.jpg

[oneounceload]

Can't tell if the barrels are Damascus/twist, but I suspect so from the little I could see - someone better qualified can help on that - I would GUESS 1880 something - plus or minus a decade or three

black powder and Damascus barrels pretty much stopped around the turn of the 1900's, as did hammer guns in a general sense

BOSS developed the single trigger in about 1905, fluid steel barrels were better and catching on, boxlock and sidelock action had been around for a decade or so - all leading me to my GUESS. Could it be even earlier? THAT is why I said a GUESS................

Hang it above the fireplace or similar - when the grandkids come over, you can make up any story you want to keep them enthralled - it's all good..... ;)

[jrothWA]

possibly Remington. Get a Dixie gunworks catalog, there will be in the back a section showing the Remington hammers and what model it MIGHT be.

Check the top rail on barrels, might have Remington & Sons, Illion, N.Y. on it.

try www.vintagedoubles.com , they specialize in older SxS.

Good luck, very interesting.

[Scorch]

The hammers look like a Model 1889 by Remington Arms, Ilion, New York, but the side plates don't.

[TheKlawMan]

I think I see "Am" above New York.