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CWKahrFan
September 21, 2011, 01:12 PM
The Kel-Tec PMR-30 seems as mythical a bird as the Phoenix. Does anyone know any up-to-date info on it? A google search doesn't bring up anything recent that I can sink my teeth in. The KelTec site doesn't have anything recent. I haven't seen any distributor that has them in stock, though I haven't looked exhaustively.

I know there were some problems... barrel, feeding... and they were doing some redesigning. But currently... What's the deal? Is production suspended again? Is the whole project on hold? Anybody know anything reliable beyond that May 10 2011 update on their site?

tulsamal
September 21, 2011, 01:39 PM
I read the KelTec forums about it. There was some redesign work. That's all done though and any new model you buy should include it. As you said, the problem is that they are virtually impossible to find. I'm willing to get in a six month line if I know for a fact that I WILL get one in six months but even that seems unlikely.

They are a very small company. Very small. And they keep having good ideas but not expanding into a much larger company. Imagine once the new double feed shotgun is "in production!"

http://www.thektog.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=90

You can always buy one on gun broker but you aren't going to get one for anything close to MSRP!

Gregg

chris in va
September 21, 2011, 01:41 PM
Going to Knob Creek here in a bit, will see if the store has one. They are some sort of 'premier' FFL that seems to get all the hard to find stuff first.

CWKahrFan
September 21, 2011, 02:02 PM
Thanks for that link Tulsamal... I spent a few minutes perusing there. Seems that some distributors are leaking them out. One poster said he received one just last week for $380 total out the door. So it seems they are in production.

Uncle Malice
September 21, 2011, 02:24 PM
CDNN has had them for a while. IIRC, they're $299, maybe $349...

tulsamal
September 21, 2011, 08:19 PM
No.... they haven't.

They've been in their catalog for a long time. But call them and try to order one. Last time I called them they admitted they had actually handled only a very few and they were having trouble getting any more at all. Their waiting list was hundreds of people long so I didn't bother getting on it.

Gregg

Liddy393
February 29, 2012, 10:15 AM
Dude on YouTube shot off 3 clips and got 7 mis fires. Wonder what that was all about.

PSP
February 29, 2012, 11:23 AM
The first ones had major barrel problems, did they not?

cwok
February 29, 2012, 01:25 PM
I was excited when I read about them.
I didnt' have any specific purpose in mind, except they looked like a lot of fun to shoot.
Now I'm glad they were rare.

Kel-Tec said, on their web page, that they had problems associated with the barrel. As I recall, they said - 'some .22 ammo' had a tendancy to keyhole and they had to change the twist rate on the barrel.
Good: Admitting problems.
Bad: Letting the gun get out the door without testing it enough to find out that factory ammo (apparently CCI) can keyhole.
That is so bad of a BAD I'm going to wait a good long while before buying one so that I can track user comments.
Besides, I'd like a six-inch model even more.

Viper99
February 29, 2012, 04:40 PM
Just wait for the much better Ruger SR-22M 30 version.

ps, just joking.

psycho nut
February 29, 2012, 09:49 PM
Kel-Tec has a habit of designing cool stuff and than never making enough of them.

mes228
March 1, 2012, 08:28 AM
CDNN, told me a month or two ago they (or Keltec) had a waiting list of 12,000 waiting for the PMR30. CDNN refused to put me on the wait list. I think it's terrible that Keltec hit a home run with the pistol. And now cannot manufacture them. Crazy really, and I am no Keltec basher, as like the two PF9's I've owned.

Chesster
March 1, 2012, 12:14 PM
Sorry but I have a preference for revolvers for my .22 Mag RIMFIRE hand guns. Concept sounds good but I'm skeptical of these autoloaders

carguychris
March 1, 2012, 12:29 PM
I think it's terrible that Keltec hit a home run with the pistol. And now cannot manufacture them.
Just relax and wait until next year when the Ruger copy comes out. ;)

tulsamal
March 1, 2012, 01:09 PM
Sorry but I have a preference for revolvers for my .22 Mag RIMFIRE hand guns. Concept sounds good but I'm skeptical of these autoloaders

The nicest revolver ever made for the .22 WMRF was the S&W M48. I've got a really nice one. K frame. Six inch barrel. Beautiful blue. P&R, of course. Made in 1960 and in great condition. I barely ever shoot it. Why? Because you get one cylinder. That one is a bit tight but they will eject. The second one? You have to just about pound the cylinder rod to get those out. Not even worth trying a third one until you totally clean it.

I've posted on the S&W forum about it. Lots of nodding heads. "Known problem." Nothing you can do about it. Polishing the chambers can actually make it worse. Try different brands of ammo, some are better, some are worse.

.22 WMRF is just tough to make work in a handgun. (Single actions revolvers are the exception!)

A lot of the PMR owners are just as happy as they can be. The trick is just finding one to buy. Lots of them on gunbroker now but they aren't cheap. Cheaper than they used to be but well about MSRP. I guess you can wait a couple of years and complain the whole time or you can pay $150-$200 extra now and enjoy it now!

Gregg

trex1310
March 1, 2012, 06:02 PM
How could you design a firearm and then not test the
most popular brand of factory ammo in it? Sounds fishy to me.

Cheapshooter
March 1, 2012, 07:04 PM
Just relax and wait until next year when the Ruger copy comes out.

Probably not next year, but if the pistol proves viable, and popular, I wouldn't doubt it!

richard597
March 1, 2012, 07:50 PM
I was at the right place at the right time in December 2011. I was with a friend who was buying a pistol at Cheaper Than Dirt in Fort Worth . I told the clerk that I really wanted a Kel-Tec PMR30 and he said "wait right there". He went in the backroom and came back with word that one was on a FedEx truck enroute to the store. He would have it in a couple of hours. He said if I would pay for it right then he would call me when it came in. Sure enough he called about three hours later and asked when I wanted to pick up my new gun.

I have fired about 300 rounds without a single problem. Accuracy is as good as my old eyes. This gun has given me no problems and I am ready to go back to the range for more fun.

Good luck on getting yours.

DaveMN
March 20, 2012, 10:35 PM
I have one on the way and am very anxious to try it out. I searched for months before finally finding one that wasn't extremely over priced.

TMD
March 20, 2012, 10:44 PM
I bought one back in Nov 10'. Put about 5 boxes of ammo through it, all different brands. Mine didn't have the keyholing problem but the best group I could get off a rest was about 4-5" @ 15 yrds. Damn thing couldn't hit water if it fell out of a boat. Another problem was the mags. If you put more than 25 rounds in them they would swell and were hard to inset into the gun. Needless to say I promptly sold it.

iblong
March 21, 2012, 06:16 AM
I really like the cartrige it is in my opinion very under rated,I want one
but It seems to be a hard cartrige to make run in autos.
Mabe in a couple of years Ill give one a try.For now I'll stick with the revolvers and bolt guns.Mine have put a lot of critters down or on the table.

Bird3897
April 16, 2012, 05:48 PM
Looks like a neat piece, 30rds would be awsome. I really like the 22mag round but they are expensive to shoot and I just don't like the thought of counting on a rimfire for reliability. I would certainly buy one for plinking fun though if I could find one that wasn't inflated in price. Guess I'll have to stick with my ruger single six for 22mag fun for now.:D

skoro
April 16, 2012, 08:05 PM
They're still pretty much unobtanium from what I've seen. None of the LGS has had one to put in their case. The ones available online are way overpriced.

I want one, but I'll wait til they become available and reasonable.

stolivar
April 16, 2012, 10:10 PM
had it from the get go. shoots all ammo and no malfunctions.


steve

DrBillC
April 16, 2012, 10:34 PM
I was at the right place/right time and found one for $309. I snapped it up and enjoyed it . . . Mostly. If I was extremely careful on how I loaded it AND with the right ammo it was a blast both figuratively and literally. Otherwise it was a PITA jamomatic. I sold it for $550 and got myself a new Walther P99 AS. No regrets. About the same cost ammo-wise and a vast improvement in quality and reliability (albeit an apples-to-oranges comparison). :D

austinr09
April 16, 2012, 10:45 PM
I don't get the whole "rimfire isn't reliable" argument. I've been shooting 22s since I was old enough to hold a gun and packed an old 50$ savage semi auto 22 around in the woods for years without ever cleaning it. Needless to say I can't really think of a time when I had a problem that was the Ammos fault.

LockedBreech
April 16, 2012, 11:40 PM
Just relax and wait until next year when the Ruger copy comes out.



Hey, if they are better looking, more reliable, produced in substantial numbers, and only about $30-50 more, I'm down! :D

Just havin' fun, not trying to set off that particular tinderbox.

bitttorrrent
April 17, 2012, 07:26 AM
Finally handled one at the NRA show.

Nice gun, feels good and trigger was actually pretty good.
The slide was a little narrow and serrations small so had a little trouble racking it and the slide stop release was a plastic part I believe - sorry it was crowded and my 3yr old was on the floor screaming about something!
Sites awesome fiber optic.

Might consider in the 200.00 range but not for the overpriced ones you see around. Not worth it.

dajowi
April 17, 2012, 10:49 AM
After checking various sources for cheap .22 magnum ammo I've come to the conclusion that there isn't any. 9mm ammo can be had for $10 a box of 50. I reload for about $5 a box of 50. So why even bother with the .22 magnum round that you can't reload?

varoadking
April 18, 2012, 01:31 AM
After checking various sources for cheap .22 magnum ammo I've come to the conclusion that there isn't any. 9mm ammo can be had for $10 a box of 50. I reload for about $5 a box of 50. So why even bother with the .22 magnum round that you can't reload?

Because it's not all about cheap...

Superhouse 15
April 18, 2012, 11:49 AM
We had a new version (post recall) as a range rental and it had serious keyhole and accuracy problems. We double checked the recommended ammo list and it keyholed with that load. It also keyholed with other brands of ammo of the same weight amd bullet type. We tried lighter and heavier loads to play with the barrel twist rate with not much success. The only load we had that didn't keyhole was an old (like red,brown, and white label old) box of Federal FMJ. It wasn't accurate but it stabilized. It's back at KT now for repair/replacement.