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checkmyswag
September 20, 2011, 10:29 PM
I place things on a spectrum a lot. We all do this but I do it more deliberately.

Looking at semi-auto concealed carry choices... have come to the following quasi-conclusions. Have to find right combination for each individual. Imagine each category as a slider bar, from left to right, when you set each category, at the end, you only have certain guns that meet your criteria. (Generalizations follow! If you're a gun expert and this isn't new news, cool, but think it's a unique way of considering it. I welcome constructive criticism.)

Caliber
smaller caliber--- easier to control, thinner, lighter and more capacity, lighter
vs
larger caliber--- more effective, heavier, thicker, lower capacity, heavier

Length
shorter barrel--- easier to conceal, less accurate, harder to shoot well, lighter
vs
longer barrel---harder to conceal, more accurate, easier to shoot, heavier


Width
smaller width---easier to conceal, more comfortable to wear, may fit some hands better
vs
bigger width---harder to conceal, more comfortable to shoot, may fit some hands better

Height
shorter grip--- easier to conceal, harder to shoot, lighter
vs
longer grip--- harder to conceal, easier to shoot, heavier

Finish
blued--- more "tactical", prone to wear, rust, cheaper
vs
stainless--- less "tactical", more resistant to wear, rust, more expensive

Steel/Polymer
steel/aluminum--- easier to shoot, heavier to carry
vs
polymer--- harder to shoot, lighter to carry

Sights
small sights--- snag free, lighter, quicker
vs
big sights/lasers--- more accurate, heavier, less slick

Action
DA/SA--- more accurate follow up shots
vs
DAO--- heavier trigger pull w DAO

Safeties
internal safeties only--- quicker to use gun
vs
thumb safety--- safer, but another step to use gun

What category/consideration am I missing?

8shot357
September 23, 2011, 06:29 AM
More picky, or less picky.:D

LC9

AK103K
September 23, 2011, 06:39 AM
Youre just making this WAY to difficult. The answer is very simple. Take the gun you shoot the best with under realistic conditions, put it in a good holster, throw something on over it, and move on.

Youre just going to drive yourself crazy otherwise.

DBLAction454
September 23, 2011, 08:31 AM
so....you want us to do all your research for you?

YOU imagine its a sidebar...

Just start going around and looking at different models and maybe rent a few to shoot. When you narrow it down to a few then ask us.

ShootingNut
September 23, 2011, 03:59 PM
Pick up a nice "Dirty Harry", and let someone "make your day".

aarondhgraham
September 23, 2011, 04:24 PM
You did put together a decent list of points to consider,,,
But in my not-so-humble opinion you omitted the most important one.

Does it fit your hand?

When I was deciding on which Wunder-Nine to buy,,,
I agonized over specs like the one in your list,,,
I picked out 3 guns I was sure were perfect.

Not a one of them felt good when I handled them.

I'm not ragging your list,,,
But one can't quantify a gun choice,,,
At least one can't (shouldn't) make the choice simply off of the list.

A good friend of mine got a new Sig-Sauer for a song,,,
A different friend of mine made his decision on what gun to buy simply on specs.

When it arrived he took it out to shoot it,,,
He couldn't wrap his hand around the fat grips.
He took a loss selling the Sig to my other big handed friend.

Use your list but only after you have at least picked up lots of guns,,,
Or use it to narrow your choice but remember to hold it in your hand before buying it.

JMNSHO

Aarond

Bond007
September 23, 2011, 04:25 PM
I've got to admit, I think about most of the same categories when recommending a gun to a new shooter (although they don't have enough experience to make an informed decision on many). I'd add striker fired vs. hammer fired to the list as well.

checkmyswag
September 23, 2011, 05:46 PM
Aaron, excellent point.

I do think about that and try out how they fit, in fact, that's usually my number one consideration as well, so I guess that is the overarching question...does it fit well?

Good call.

trex1310
September 23, 2011, 08:58 PM
checkmyswag - Sounds like you are going to make an excellent
congressman. :D

WVsig
September 23, 2011, 09:01 PM
Action
DA/SA--- more accurate follow up shots
vs
DAO--- heavier trigger pull w DAO

Where is SA? Your criteria excludes 1911s and BHPs which IMHO are 2 of the best CC handguns ever made. :eek:

Finish
blued--- more "tactical", prone to wear, rust, cheaper
vs
stainless--- less "tactical", more resistant to wear, rust, more expensive


Less and less guns are blued these days. Stainless is not more resistant to wear, rust, more expensive than newer finishes like Teflon, Crea coats and tennifer.

Caliber
smaller caliber--- easier to control, thinner, lighter and more capacity, lighter
vs
larger caliber--- more effective, heavier, thicker, lower capacity, heavier


This is relative to size... My DW CBOB recoils much less than a Kahr PM9.

Length
shorter barrel--- easier to conceal, less accurate, harder to shoot well, lighter
vs
longer barrel---harder to conceal, more accurate, easier to shoot, heavier

Hardest part of a handgun to conceal is the butt end not the slide. In a proper IWB holster a 5" colt Govt or BHP can easily be concealed due to the slimness of the grip. Single stack vs double stack needs to be added.

What I am trying to get to is that you cannot reduce this type of thing to a slider bar. You can add up all the #s and run an equation but that is not going to equal holding a particular gun in your hand and then shooting it. ;)

checkmyswag
September 23, 2011, 10:14 PM
Good point about single vs double stack.

I know it won't result in the ideal gun for any user, but will exclude some and narrow things down a bit.

I didn't mention SA as I believe in DAO/striker fired for concealed carry, although I really like that 380 Sig.

chris in va
September 23, 2011, 11:14 PM
For 'deeper' concealment I take my Kahr K9, but I shoot my CZ75 like a laser in competition so it gets put into the rotation during the winter months.

Getting a CZ 97b soon to replace the G21SF, which replaced the Sig 220. It's a process.

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checkmyswag
September 23, 2011, 11:20 PM
"It's a process."

Beginning to accept this.