View Full Version : Where did the single stack auto's go?

September 18, 2011, 10:58 PM
Looking for a concealed carry gun, needs to have thumb safety, needs to be narrow in width, short in the handle, in 9/40/45 and DAO or striker fired.

I see some of the other S&W's that were single stack, but as thick as the modern double stacks.


September 18, 2011, 11:03 PM
Ruger LC9

September 18, 2011, 11:05 PM
You know where they went? Into my IWB holster. :D

My wife bought me a Colt 1911 New Agent (you have my permission to be jealous :)) in a single stack .45 auto with the trench sight, and I have not found a better gun for me. It's got the shortened Officer's frame, and it's super skinny. Colt released a DAO version, but they removed the thumb safety (as well as the grip safety, I think. I'm all for the single-action that has the safeties, so I can't help you in the DAO department with a thumb safety, but I'm certain that they exist.

American Eagle
September 18, 2011, 11:12 PM
They didn't go anywhere. I own 3 modern single stack semi-autos.

September 18, 2011, 11:25 PM
The Kahr PM9 is available with a safety though it's likely a special-order item outside of Massachusetts (which, from what I understand, is the state it was primarily designed for due to their laws.)


September 18, 2011, 11:38 PM
I was just reading about the Kahr PM9, how reliable are they/is yours?

September 18, 2011, 11:40 PM
Walther PPS. Best in its class, hands down.

September 18, 2011, 11:53 PM
...Kahr PM9, how reliable...

They have a good reputation...




September 18, 2011, 11:53 PM
Sig P232, 239.... Walther PPS...

September 19, 2011, 12:00 AM
The Walther PPS has a (glock-type) trigger safety... not a thumb safety. They're also well-regarded though...

September 19, 2011, 12:03 AM
Oops. Reading comp fail. I normally pride myself on not making recommendations that ignore the stated requirements. :o

September 19, 2011, 12:23 AM
Thumb safety knocks out Sig 225, 220 hk p7m8, hk psp .... How important is that feature to you???? Though tj's custom has a sig retrofit safety.

Glock 36 with retrofit safety?

Several gen 2/3 smith and wesson semi auto guns would fit the bill

Honestly not all double stacks are created equal... If I were you I would try the fit and manual of arms of various pistols then make my choice. Your list of desired features is long and frankly to each their own however there are many happy useres of the guns your parameters exclude.

September 19, 2011, 12:36 AM
Oh yeah... There's also the Kimber Solo... has ambi-thumb-safety... Web reviews and opinions seem kinda lukewarm to me but I'm no expert on it..



September 19, 2011, 06:27 AM
>>Oops. Reading comp fail. I normally pride myself on not making recommendations that ignore the stated requirements.

Oops... yeah... I guess the Sigs are out of the running for the "more desirables". Chuckle.

I didn't notice his requirements.

September 19, 2011, 07:03 AM
Walther P5
Sig P6
S&W 3913
Any 1911 in 9MM
Walther P-1/P-38

As well as what the others mentioned.

September 19, 2011, 01:39 PM
Every auto I have is single stack.

September 19, 2011, 01:39 PM
Your options would open up quite a bit if you accepted SAO as well. You could then choose from a large variety of 1911s in 9mm and 45acp.

September 19, 2011, 01:41 PM
I've got a bunch in my safe. :)

3913, 3914, 3906, 3904. Great pistols!

September 19, 2011, 01:45 PM
The thumb safety requirement really limits you choices. Most of the recommendations being made do not meet this requirement. IMHO there is no need to have a thumb safety if you have a long/heavy DAO pull.

The S&W 3rd gen guns are the only ones that come to mind.

September 19, 2011, 02:01 PM
A little bit diffferant than you asked, but worth consideration.

Polish P-64

Single stack
9 mm Makarov
slim, will fit a pocket with a pocket holster
Has a safty

Cost under $200 (Usualy under $175)

Acurate enough, though the first DA shot takes a bit to master. It has a heavy DA trigger pull, with an alomost hiar trigger SA. Reliable as all get out. Ammo is available. Oh and through the worst of the post election fall out when ammo was hard to get, and online was all back orders. Ammo in 9mm Mak was plentiful.

September 19, 2011, 02:04 PM
Every auto I have is single stack.

Mine too, and all mine are SA, just the way John Moses Browning designed them. :D

That said, the Ruger sr9c is no wider than my EMP, and no larger..... has a thumb safety, and costs less than 1/2 what my EMP did.

September 19, 2011, 02:16 PM
+1 on the Ruger LC9. Great shooter, easily carried, made in the USA. It's lightweight but strong, the frame is polymer over aluminum.



September 19, 2011, 03:42 PM
I traded in my single-stack Walther for a double-stack Walther. That accounts for one of them.

September 19, 2011, 03:54 PM
I do not have, but I have looked at the Kimber 'Solo' and it fits you requirements.
If you could live with a thumb safety, there are several that come to mind. Kahr P9, Walther PPS, Ruger LC9 and a couple of others. I can live (literally) without a thumb safety on my carry guns. Under stress, it is one less thing to have to contend with.

September 19, 2011, 03:55 PM
WVsig wrote: IMHO there is no need to have a thumb safety if you have a long/heavy DAO pull.

Agreed. I prefer NOT having a safety for my CCW. I find that DA/SA pistol better suited to my needs. Knowing me, a thumb safety would wind up being a impediment in a sudden and critical "dire need" moment...

Sharpsdressed Man
September 19, 2011, 06:07 PM
3913 or 3914. If we don't keep telling you about them, you won't ckeck them out. :D No longer in production, but well worth seeking out at the the gunshows, shops, or internet auctions.

September 19, 2011, 06:18 PM
3913/3914 are very nice... I carried a 3913 for years, then sold it in a moment of insanity. Now I'll have to buy another, and keep it this time. Beautiful little pistol, before subcompacts were really common too. They appear on GB and Gunsamerica regularly in the 350-400 dollar range

Don P
September 19, 2011, 06:26 PM
Glock 36, single stack 7 rounds total weighing in at 27.9 oz. loaded in the infamous 45 acp.

September 19, 2011, 11:06 PM
HK P7.....but beware the addiction that will come with it.


September 19, 2011, 11:11 PM
OP, are you in a state that requires a manual safety?

I'm trying to figure out why you would want a thumb safety and DAO action, both. I could see one or the other, but not both together unless it were some external (government or job) requirement.

September 20, 2011, 05:56 AM
Nope. Personal preference.