View Full Version : Brand New Ruger LC9 Review And Report

September 16, 2011, 07:35 PM
Brought this home yesterday. Was able to go to the range today. I will break this into a few categories so as to be as clear as possible.

As always Ruger is a little light on the packaging. Nothing but a nylon case comes with this firearm and a box with warranty info etc. The gun comes with one 7 round mag giving the gun a total capacity of eight. There is a pinkeye extension as well as a flush magazine adapter.

As always with Ruger the fit and finish of the firearm is top notch. I have never recieved a new in box Ruger product that had a hiccup and this is no exception.

Section One Accuracy.....

I shot 100 rounds of American Egale 115gr FMJ. Shooting was done in 8 round Mag sets with spare change left for the end. I shoot at 8" round circles from varying distances. I never had a mag that completely missed and the worst mag was the first one I shot through. The average shot distance was 7 yards and some movement and other drills were mixed in towards the end.

84/100 rounds hit the 8" circle giving me an 84% success rate. I will say that most "misses" were under a quarter inch outside the circle. I will take it for the first time ever shooting the gun. The trigger will shoot in better eventually as my LCP did. This gun feels almost identical to the LCP did as the trigger goes. My LCP had an acceptable trigger pull after about 500 rounds and now it is one of my more accurate guns.

Section Two Durability/ Quality/ Reliability

Its a Ruger after all. Zero failures of any kind. Zero hiccups, zero light strikes, zero "well we can chalk that up to bad ammo". Simply put there are no issues with this little gun whatsoever.

Section Three Overall Impression

As a left handed shooter the safety did not bother me a bit. Frankly I would simply leave it off and I am able to check its status while coming to a full draw so it is of no concern to me. Frankly it is a plus at the range. I was alone today but had it not been the more safety the better. The loaded when up indicator is intriguing and does not bother me a bit. Again safety at the range and did not affect me negatively in the least. I could not even remotely see it in my sight picture while firing.

My every day carry gun is currently an LCP no matter what the dress code so this little 9 will be able to replace that 70% of the time. The only time I will have to stick to LCP is when I have to go full on business attire.

Overall This gun Gets 5 Stars in my book because I am sure the break in for the trigger will go similarly to that of LCP

Regards, Vermonter

P.S. Pics in a reply to follow.

September 16, 2011, 07:40 PM





These are just five of the 13 Targets that were shot. A lot of good orange circles lost their lives today lol.

September 16, 2011, 08:52 PM
Plan to conceal in a desantis mini scabbord left handed holster. One of the few i could find in a left handed belt holster.

September 16, 2011, 10:44 PM
love the idea/design

hate how it fits in my hand

glad it works for many people though

September 16, 2011, 10:52 PM
Fits very well for me. Sorry to hear its a bad grip for you. Did you try the pinkey extension?

September 16, 2011, 11:34 PM
I like mine a lot. I still want a LCP as a BUG but it will have to wait. I do miss the old Glock 17 Gen 3 though but it was much harder to hide. I had to sell it to get the LC9.

September 17, 2011, 09:46 AM
I agree this will be easy to conceal however I have not tried yet. I have ordered a desantis mini scabbard for it so that should hide it well.

September 17, 2011, 01:50 PM
+ 1 For Desantis. My holster came within a day of the order. I did not even pick rush delivery. The holster is amazing i am wearing it now. I am going to be able to conceal a 9mm with an additional round over and above my Lcp. This gets better and better going to shoot more today.

September 17, 2011, 02:02 PM
Congrats on your LC9. I bought mine not too long ago either. I traded a PK380 for it. While I loved the PK380, it was just harder to CC due to square edges printing. With the LC9, it's much easier to carry.

Where did you order the desantis from? Is it a IWB or OWB holster?

September 17, 2011, 07:06 PM
It is an owb mini scabbord. Wore it for the afternoon and evening. It dissapears under an untucked shirt alone and with a vest or jacket it is invisable. It is a comfortable gun holster combo and will come with me alot.

Edit: i got the holster from desantis online and one day turnaround was incredible with standard ground shipping.

September 17, 2011, 07:08 PM
Do you have a picture of it?

September 17, 2011, 07:51 PM
I will post some tomorrow. If you look on their sight and do a search for the lc9 you will find it.

September 17, 2011, 07:54 PM
Glad you like it.

I had a chance to shoot one, and it wasn't for me. The trigger is LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGGG and to heavy. Plus I don't care for all the safeties.

It appears you shoot it well, and it just show that it's different strokes for different folks.

September 17, 2011, 08:02 PM
You are correct about the trigger but it will smooth out just like LCP did. Thank you for the compliment.

September 18, 2011, 04:47 PM


Range report from today to follow.

September 18, 2011, 04:54 PM
Today I took the better half to the range with me. I shot from distances everywhere 20 yards on in to seven. Not a damm round missed the 8 ring of the shoot n c not a single round out of 108!!!

This gun is just coming together for me. The last 8 were federal personal defense carry ammo in 115 gr. Those 8 Shots produced this group. All eight of them in the same 3/4" hole it was an awesome feeling.


Here are a few more targets while were at it.



September 18, 2011, 05:03 PM
Nice grouping. I am still intrigued with the LC9, as I'd like one to store on my motorcycle.
My LGS is getting rid of his Rugers at rock bottom prices, and I have a chance to get one for $389+ tax. I may check in on the LC9, despite all my issues with it.

September 18, 2011, 05:17 PM
How far a drive is that at this point i havent met a ruger i didnt like.

September 18, 2011, 06:08 PM
I had a chance to make a quick trip to my range this afternoon with my new LC9. Even with the long trigger pull that some don't like....I loved the way it shot and it ran flawlessly. This is the first compact other than the sig 232 that I found would fit my big hands and I was really surprised that it did. (but I am using the finger extension on the mag) This little pistol is going to be my carry weapon from now on.

September 18, 2011, 06:22 PM
We should keep in touch while we progress with these things. Nice shooting sir. I have been using the flush mag which works ok for me. Have you picked a holster yet?

September 18, 2011, 06:25 PM
Thanks for the report.

another Vermonter ;)

September 18, 2011, 06:34 PM
I haven't had a chance to get a holster yet. Probably going to get a pocket holster as well as some other and try both to see what works best for me. I like the looks of the Desantis IWB so may try it.
I shot all my rounds from 5, 10 and 15 yards with Remington UMC and Ranger sxt. When I get used to the trigger I'll move it out farther.

September 18, 2011, 06:36 PM
We should shoot together sometime.

Tleo the desantis gets a vote from me.

September 18, 2011, 07:19 PM
Took it out for a quick function check. I used 4 different types of ammo (Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics FMJ, Hornady Steel Match HAP, Hornady Custom Ammo XTP, and Winchester SXZ 9). It had zero malfunction. Most accurate with Winchester (2" 5 shot group, standing unsupported, 7 yards ). Trigger was like the double action from my 92 FS, but it's smooth. It's snappy but I managed to shoot good groups.

Next time, I'll take pictures. :)

@Vermonter - thanks for the holster info. It's probably my next purchase along with an extra mag from Midway.

September 18, 2011, 07:33 PM
Will probably shoot another hundred through it tomorrow. The holster really is nice and now i want something similar for other guns. I havent heard anyone say anything bad about the lc9.

September 18, 2011, 07:43 PM
I have a chance to get one for $389+ tax
They are going for $369 in my neck of the woods.:D

September 18, 2011, 09:02 PM
I really cant believe rugers pricing for what you get in this gun. Very sound purchase in my book.

September 18, 2011, 09:04 PM
I saw a slightly used one last weekend for $339. I should have picked it up.

ESI Agent
September 18, 2011, 09:55 PM
Mine has been 100% the trigger is very long and takes some time getting use to, but its easy to carry. :D

September 18, 2011, 10:09 PM
Mods please leave this open as i plan to use it as a journal about the break in period for this gun. Those of you that own whats your carry ammo of choice for it?

Carne Frio
September 18, 2011, 11:20 PM
Ammo currently carried is Remington Golden Saber 124gr hp.:D

September 19, 2011, 12:09 AM
$369 here too at the LGS!

full case load
September 19, 2011, 10:12 AM
Regarding ammo. Those who own a LC9 and have read the manual already know. Others may be interested in knowing that it tells ammo choices to avoid. Quotes from the manual; "Do not use "+P+" ammunition"., also, "a steady diet of "+P" ammunition will shorten the endurance life of the Ruger LC9". (pages 11 &12). (Thought maybe it would be a deal breaker to some if they couldn't shoot the higher pressure rounds.) Side note - I am completely satisfied with mine and will soon qualify with it and have it listed on my carry permit.

September 19, 2011, 01:08 PM
Right now I have Winchester SX9 in the mag. Most accurate of the ones I have tested so far, so until I find something better...

September 19, 2011, 08:06 PM
Funny you should mention that. Do many manufactures call out specifics on not using +p ammo. I would think that it would be something that you run a box or two for accuracy comfort and then pray you never need it. Ps i have not shot any to this point through mine.

On another note i ran another hundred rounds through it. Accuracy is on par or better than average and not a single malfunction.

full case load
September 20, 2011, 10:00 AM
I was a little surprised to read that about the +P+ and +P 9mm. All of my other Rugers have been noted for their strength and ability to handle loads other weapons couldn't or shouldn't. IDK? Maybe since it is scaled down to almost the size of the LCP the strength just isn't possible with the materials used? As to other makers, I've no clue what they recommend. Someone else?

September 20, 2011, 10:20 AM
The manual states not to run +P+ on page 11 and then states not to feed the gun "a steady diet of +P" I will interpret this to mean that as long as you don't run a few hundred through it it won't hurt. Then again I have read mixed things about the added benefit of +P ammo in short barrels.

I am going to run some through the gun and see if accuracy is the same for me. If I can achieve desirable results then I will possibly switch up my carry load. Does anyone with a micrometer have any hard facts on this?

Thanks, Vermonter

September 20, 2011, 11:01 AM
Any way you run the numbers, a standard pressure 9mm round through the LC9 is at surely at least the equivalent of a +P 38 Special round, probably with room to spare.

September 20, 2011, 12:11 PM
Shot mine the first time on Sunday and then I had the chance to put another 100 rds through it today and it ran flawlessly again. In response to some opinions and comments I've read and heard in various places, that this pistol is not accurate, don't blindly accept them without trying this pistol. It may not be right for everyone and what they are looking for, but I think once you are accustomed to the trigger pull it will be a great little shooter. On Sunday, right out of the box, first time shooting this LC9, after 50rds on the silhouete target I fired 20 rounds of 147 gr Ranger sxt at this shoot'n see at 15 yards with only one miss and that was my faulty grip.

September 20, 2011, 08:11 PM
90% accuracy on the shoot n c 7 yards then 15 7ards. I shot fifty shots at both distances. The misses were outside the scoaring ring but were still on the circle. I now have 400 rounds through this thing and am shooting an average of 86%. If i was to discount the first few mags to figure out the trigger I would have an average in the mid 90s.

Gotta go stock on a few hundred more target rounds and put them through as well. Ps I really cant find an ammo preference this thing seems to like just about everything.

Tleo we really should keep this up its a great motivator. That is some really nice shooting BTW.

September 21, 2011, 04:10 AM
Great review and pics. I'm almost regretting that I bought a PF9 instead of the LC9.

September 21, 2011, 05:21 AM
Vermonter sounds like good shooting with yours too. I'd like to hear from more owners about their experience as well. I think this gun is plenty accurate for COM shots up to 15 yards but I want to try it out to 25 yards and see what it does. I think it will do okay at that range too but with the short barrell/sight radius and long pull it will take some practice and lots of concentration.

September 21, 2011, 05:48 AM
Tleo/Vermonter - you guys are doing great! I wish I was able to shoot last weekend, but a last minute change of plans, tooks two of those precious hours away :(

Do you have snap caps? I use them at home to practice trigger pull. It seems to help me get used to the long pull while keeping the sight on target.

I will definitely take pics next time I go to the range. Which sadly is probably not until this coming Sunday.

September 21, 2011, 10:59 AM
No but next time i see some they will follow me home. I practice long pull with my DAO revolver. Tleo.....let's both shoot the same course of fire and see what we get. We could have some real fun with this. I have a pretty home grown range but we can do just about any distance. I have ordered extra mags but at this point I only have the one so reloads are out until further notice.

You propose the shots and distances and we will both do it next time out?

Thanks, Vermonter

September 21, 2011, 03:31 PM
That sounds like fun Vermonter. I need to get some more mags as well. It's a pain loading one over and over. Ruger should have included at least one more with the pistol.
Snap caps! I forgot I had some until you mentioned them Marquez...thanks!

September 21, 2011, 08:00 PM
Full case load... what state do you live in that you have to list your guns?

full case load
September 22, 2011, 09:51 AM
RickE, California, mine is issued through my county's Sheriffs Office but is a statewide permit. I think most CA state permits are issued thru local LE, P.D. or S.O. If the weapon is not listed on the permit it is subject to the rules of any other like weapon, ie; traveling with handgun - must be unloaded, in a locked case, ammo contained separately and not in a magazine (loaded mags are defined as loaded firearms) etc. etc. etc. and then probably another etc.

September 22, 2011, 10:00 AM
guys, there is a PM option for your conversation.

Anti-hijacking is my business.

full case load
September 22, 2011, 10:07 AM
Okay, Sorry

September 22, 2011, 10:19 AM
I'm at around 700 rounds through my LC9 and have shot it in one of the local PCCA matches. It does it's job well, though my performance in that particular match reeked. I've yet to have a failure of any kind, it carries well and shoots where I point it (barring that abysmal match that is...........my fault, not the gun's).

October 1, 2011, 07:25 AM
I received my Desantis mini scabbard from Optics Planet and the LC9 fits really nice in there. Easy to conceal and easy to draw from with just enough retention.

Okay, last time I shot, I had a failure to feed. It was WWB 115 gr fmj. Determined it was the ammo not the gun. I have a post on here with a pic of the ammo.

So I went back to the range yesterday and looked at each round before loading. 100% function this time with 150 rds. It's not as accurate as my other pistols and it's not as easy to shoot as my full size pistols. I did use the flat mag bottom instead of the finger extension as that's how I carry. It makes a difference on your grip. Like my hand is going to slide off (it did not). I might carry with the extension just because. The trigger feels better and overall, I think the pistol is broken in as operation of the slide release is easier.

Here's a couple of target pics at 7 yds with 7 rds each.



October 1, 2011, 08:39 AM
How is the felt recoil? It's my understanding that the LC9 has dual recoil springs? I like the size, but can't help be reminded how tiring my PF-9 was after 100 round sessions. Let me know ASAP. The LC9 has caught my eye several times due to its practicality.

October 1, 2011, 10:50 AM
I would classify it as snappy, but manageable. Not harsh, but definitely more felt than XDm or SP2022. The finger tip extension makes a big difference for your grip and follow up shots.

October 13, 2011, 07:14 PM
So..... after not shooting this for 3 weeks I went out this evening and shot 108 rounds. Here is the report

Weather: 43 degrees and a light mist of rain. Nothing crazy just enough to show up on the windshield once every while.

Ammo: 8 Rounds of Winchester PDX to test weather +p would blow up the gun
100 rounds of sellier & bellerot sp?

Overall accuracy on an 8" circle 74%

This is the first time this gun has failed in over 500 rounds. This s&b stuff is the dirtiest ammo I have ever shot ever period end of story. It also has a sealed primer with a red color which I just spent an hour cleaning out of my gun. At 11% below my personal accuracy average if this is the worst it gets I am ok with that.


Basically we have learned that this gun will never see s&b ammo ever again nor will any of my other firearms. Still happy with the gun.

October 13, 2011, 08:15 PM
ive been thinking about getting one, does it handle hollow-points? have you tried them?

October 13, 2011, 08:24 PM
My typical carry ammo is horniday critical defense. Those run great in it. i shot three boxes of that stuff 60 rounds and it was awesome. I tried pdx1 and the +p did well also.

October 13, 2011, 09:10 PM
Since you showed me yours, I am showing you mine!


Remember, this one was one of the first LC9s released in this area, so I was a bit excited and confused the model number at the beginning of the shooting video!:(

October 13, 2011, 09:20 PM
I am also a new LC9 owner. I must say I am more excited about the LC9 than any new gun I have owned for a while. It has exceeded my expectations in every way. Shoots much better than I thought it would. The long trigger is not bad at all for accurate shooting. Very well made. Only 20oz loaded.

The LC9 does exactly what it should do for a SD pistol. Easy to carry, easy to shoot, and very effective round in the 9X19mm.

Here is my target at 7 yards. Keep in mind that I was choosing different areas to shoot, so the spread is not really bad.


does it handle hollow-points? have you tried them?

Yes. Limited amount so far. About 150 rounds of WWB 115g HP and Federal Hydra Shock 135g HP.

October 13, 2011, 09:27 PM
i just picked mine up today too


October 13, 2011, 09:43 PM
Nice target and video

October 14, 2011, 12:21 PM
Finally had to tighten the retention screw on the desantis mini scabbord. Every morning before I put this on I do the upside down retention test (no mag empty chamber safety on). Finally this morning the gun slipped out of the scabbard and landed on the couch cushin just a few inches below. I tightened the screw and gun stayed put.

So if any took my recommendation on the holster remember the retention screw.


October 14, 2011, 07:12 PM
I've had an LC9 since they came out. I have yet to have any type of failure. Took me a while to get use to the trigger. Just picked up a LCP today so it could have a little brother!

My local FFL just had a "Ruger Days" a few weeks ago, and they were selling the LC9 for $299, and threw in a free box of ammo.

I am thinking of getting the DeSantis Cozy Partner IWB Holster for my LC9


October 15, 2011, 07:16 AM
I have posted in several threads that I am surprised how well I shoot with my LC9. I think the trick is the trigger is very smooth with no stacking so you don't pull of target.

I wonder if everyone is aware that the LC9 actually works from a pre-cocked position. The hammer is actually pre-cocked and I think this also helps for smooth pull.

October 15, 2011, 08:26 AM
ive been dry firining this thing alot and i like the trigger, it seems as though im gonna have no trouble with it. i really dont know what everyone is slamming the trigger for

October 15, 2011, 09:19 AM
+1 on the DeSantis mini Scabbard. Thanks for the recommendation Vermonter. I have not made the adjustment on the retention screw as its holding great for now.

@madmag - good shooting. I like how pretty much it's up and down the center mass. Any of those can take the BG down.

@gunsngold - people that slam the trigger as those that like the trigger down to 1 lb and travel of about 1/8". Im exaggerating of course.

My next session is going to be draw from holster and double tap. should be another fun day at the range.

October 15, 2011, 09:41 AM
Glad you like the holster as I do. The retention screw did not need any adjusting for about a month so once a month is no big deal to me. I do recommend you do a retention test before putting it on every morning like I do.

When it did loosen it seemed to go from good to go to loosely goosey in one day however now after the adjustment its been good for the past few days.

Just make sure the dam thing is empty when you do the upside down couch cushion test. We don't want to test our carry ammo accidentally now do we? :eek:

Thanks, Vermonter

October 16, 2011, 06:10 PM
Today I shot 63 rounds from the ready gun position with 62/63 hit the 8" circle with one flyer that was just on the outside edge. Then I started to get creative and shoot from the draw. I was shooting for time to first hit as well as from drawn double and triple taps. Overall I shot exactly 100 rounds and 97 of them hit the 8" circle.

Ammo was WWB 115gr FMJ. Overall accuracy with this pistol is all there and draw & fire is coming together really nicely as well. I cleaned most of the gum from the previous terrible ammo out of the gun although I did have two malfunctions today. I am completely field stripping the thing and cleaning the living daylights out of it. The malfunctions are not serious as the slide simply does not come forward on a new round and it is easy to clear.

Here are two pics of example groups.



October 16, 2011, 06:47 PM
I did have two malfunctions today.

First good shooting.

I have a new LC9, what type of malfunctions? I assume you think it was due to the gum from previous ammo.

October 16, 2011, 06:54 PM
the slide stayed back as though it was on an empty mag. I have cleaned it to the best of my ability. If i have another issue on my next 100 rounds I will be switching up mags as I only have one. still waiting on the ones i've ordered though I may go to the LGS to see if I can get my paws on some now.

As I said I had zero malfunctions until I ran this Sellier and Benoit ammo with a red sealed primer. I could also be limp wristing (after all I'm not perfect).

October 16, 2011, 07:01 PM
I have not had this issue with my LC9, but I admit only about 150 rounds down range so far.

I understand about the red sealer, but normally it doesn't jam things.

I am one of those non believers in limp wristing, so I don't think that's a problem.

I know it's obvious but check your thumb position.

Keep us posted.

PS: I have been shooting WWB 115g FMJ, WWB 115g HP, and Federal 135g HP.

October 16, 2011, 07:41 PM
I don't think this is an issue however I am shooting alone so if my thumb position is changing I wouldn't know. I will take someone with me and have them watch next time.

Thanks for the tip though I hadn't thought of that.

October 16, 2011, 07:41 PM
How does the trigger compare to the SW Bodyguard 380?

October 16, 2011, 07:52 PM
How does the trigger compare to the SW Bodyguard 380?

I don't own the Bodyguard, so I can just give a one sided answer.

Despite being long I find the LC9 trigger very much less of an issue than I thought it would be before I purchased. It is very smooth with no stacking and it does start from a partially cocked position. The end result is it just does not seem to pull off target. I thought I would have to work to learn the trigger, but I was hitting very well on my first mag.

The Bodyguard is also hammer fired, but I admit I have not tried the trigger.

October 16, 2011, 07:59 PM
I find the trigger to be managanle and about in line with a DAO revolver.

October 16, 2011, 08:09 PM
I find the trigger to be manageable and about in line with a DAO revolver.

I know we all have different trigger feel, but I find the LC9 trigger very different than a normal DA revolver, at least the several I own. It would be a good day for me to hit was well as my LC9 using DA with my Colt, Smith, Or Ruger Revolvers.

Again, that's my personal experience.

October 16, 2011, 08:50 PM
My expirence is with charter revolvers so i suppose there could be a difference. I know this after shooting a bunch the lc9 trigger seems better than the lcp. I own both and before the nine the 380 was my carry piece so that is a good comparison i suppose.

October 16, 2011, 09:28 PM

you seem to hit very well with the LC9, that's all that counts.

October 16, 2011, 09:34 PM
Wnhat has been your best load? Ps thanks for the compliment.

October 16, 2011, 10:10 PM
What has been your best load?

Haven't shot that much. But I like the WWB 115g HP and the Federal Hydra-Shock 135g HP.

I plan to test Hornady Critical Defense. I use the CD ammo in .38 & .45 ACP and it is very good ammo.

October 18, 2011, 09:44 PM
Took my LC9 to the range last week to see if it would go bang. Had about 70 rounds of 6 different loads. Perfect functioning. The plus P loads had more recoil, but quite manageable. The loads that shot closer to point of aim for me were 124gr gold dots.

I'm breaking in a Cozy Partner IWB. Kinda tricky snaps, but I'm getting used to them.

October 19, 2011, 08:00 AM
124gr gold dots.

Were these +P loads?

I have not shot the +P 124gr loads in my LC9, but I do have this load for possible carry round.

November 20, 2011, 12:12 PM
Well the lc9 went back to ruger. Less than 1000 rounds and slide stop spring broke. Took three weeks to come back. Gave it 100 rounds last night and it was like the same gun without the failures. If it fails within the next few hundred rounds in the same manner i will not stand behind it but for now im assuming it was a lemmon that was repaired.

How is everyone else doing with theirs?

November 20, 2011, 06:22 PM
Vermonter - sorry to hear about your problem - hopefully this is not the norm for the LC9. I was able to shoot mine last weekend. I think I'm doing better. Targets were at 7 yards. Here are some pics.




November 20, 2011, 06:36 PM
On the previous post I have a picture of the target board. These targets are 8.5 x 11 inch printer paper. I printed them from the Glock website. The first one here is a torso target with a 9mm ammo to show group size. The last two are face targets. I took two shots at the smiley face then go to bottom left and then to the sad face. I was really surprise at the results so I shot the other target the same way to verify. :D




November 20, 2011, 08:53 PM
Im ok if i got a lemon and that to me means the product was sub par in my expirence but overall a god product. This would leave me able to reccomend the gun. It will take a few hundred more rounds for me to trust their fix and if all goes well this one will serve its purpouse.
Ruger has already agreed to replace it with a different gun if i end up not trusting it in the long run.

So far 100 rounds zero failures after it came back so that is a start.

November 20, 2011, 09:51 PM
Yeah, it's not my range gun but I feel like I have to shoot it more often because it's my carry gun about 50% of the time. And so far, I've had no reason to not trust it. I hope it stays that way.

November 21, 2011, 08:54 PM
After more consideration what is your best load?

November 22, 2011, 09:18 AM
Vermonter - range ammo is WWB or Federal from Wal-Mart. Both seem to shoot same grouping. so far I've tried the PDX1 124 gr +P, Hornady CD 115 gr, Hornady Custom 147 gr and Hornady Tap 124 gr. It likes the 115 gr best. The PDX1 was snappiest out of the group and resulted in the biggest group size for me. I'm looking for some Hydra Shok and Speer Gold Dot but I have not seen any in my neck of the woods. Guess I'll have to order.