View Full Version : Make Your Semi-Auto, Fully-Auto Legally!

July 15, 2011, 08:38 PM

I think this is pretty cool. Also in the video description it gives you a site where you can buy it.

July 15, 2011, 08:48 PM
Been around a while, and it's neat, but...

Jeeze - costs as much as 1300 rounds of M855.

I choose ammo.

July 15, 2011, 09:27 PM
Its cool but not cool enough to buy IMHO.

Roger Ronas
July 15, 2011, 10:17 PM
No more video.


July 16, 2011, 08:18 AM
Jeeze - costs as much as 1300 rounds of M855.
How many rounds of M855 would an actual full auto cost.

July 16, 2011, 12:15 PM
A single well-aimed shot is worth more than 30 un-aimed shots. I still choose ammo.

July 16, 2011, 12:48 PM
...it is not the noise of our burst that count...it is hits that count, we will hit...

I had something like that in HS and it was fun on a 10-22, at pennies a round.

4V50 Gary
July 17, 2011, 12:54 AM
Same, but with a household rubberband. Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVfwFP_RwTQ&feature=related)

Superhouse 15
July 17, 2011, 01:14 AM
I wouldn't mess with the rubber band thing. A similar setup with a shoelace led to the infamous "we find that the shoelace is a machinegun" decision by the ATF. Why risk it?

July 17, 2011, 11:45 AM

Diamond LawDawg
July 17, 2011, 02:00 PM
I've had one since May...Ist utilized " It's a HOOT" qualities at THE FUN GUN SHOOT in Jun outside Wall SD. Less than 2 minutes to put it on one of my two COLT LE6940 M4s....got some cool video blasting thru 1000rds of 223Federal,PMC and nato 5.56...using 30rd Mag Pul magazines and 20 rd colt mags. My son and I were actually accurate out to over 100yds. Spray and played all day with it. Alot of the FULL AUTO crowd stopped by and were duly impressed by my 349 dollar plus cost of the LE fun gun. It did anything that a 15k class3 did. :cool: Being a retired police officer I'm easy to find (photo and fingerprints on file worldwide) if someone wants to take it away

July 17, 2011, 09:23 PM
What is the name of it and what is the website? The video isn't loading for me.

Diamond LawDawg
July 18, 2011, 03:58 AM

July 18, 2011, 07:50 AM
I'm all for any device that legally simulates full-auto fire. It makes the anti-gun establishment madder than hornets and they can't do a darn thing about it.:D

July 18, 2011, 04:30 PM
Must. Resist. Urge. To Buy. One.

July 18, 2011, 08:05 PM
No doubt. This actually would make me consider an AR-15 which I vowed never to buy...

July 18, 2011, 09:33 PM
Eh, I'll keep my M1A in a SAGE stock...I don't WANT to fire 308win in full auto...

July 28, 2011, 05:22 AM
I once decided i was gonna pretend to be Arnold and fire my CETME with 1 arm. I proceeded to fire a quick 3 round burst. round 1 landed on target, round 2 went downrange and struck the ground over to the right near a bank of targets that was another 30 yards away, round #3 hit the burm at the 2nd further bank of targets. thats what .308 rapid fire does for ya if youre not prepared for it.

July 28, 2011, 07:29 PM
This thing is really pushing the envelope.

July 29, 2011, 01:51 PM
sorry to bust yalls bubble but anything that is used to make or modify a semi auto shoot like an automatic weapon is deemed illegal modification by the all knowing god the ATF and E, unless you have the proper license issued by them to do so.

July 29, 2011, 02:16 PM
This is a bump fire aid. It doesn't have a spring or anything that allows multiple rounds per trigger pull. You are just pulling the trigger really fast.

David Hineline
July 30, 2011, 03:07 PM
Some people don't know Jack Poo but still have an opinion.

August 2, 2011, 09:55 AM
...like Mr. Rubber Band Man said - your finger pulls the trigger EVERY time a round is fired.

There is no legislation on how fast your fingers move ;)

Could you imagine rigging up the rubber band to a semi-auto MG42/MG3 variant? Nothing but bloody nubs of fingers left :D

August 2, 2011, 07:44 PM
The fellow on Poor man's Machine gun has a letter from the BATF on his website. As long as the device does not make the weapon fire with "one" single pull of the trigger its okay. So if the rubber band makes the trigger operate manually at a faster rate and the round is fired with a trigger pull for each round its legal.

August 18, 2011, 12:49 PM
My main concern is that BATF, in their infinite stupidity, will somehow pervert their definitions in order to make this an "NFA weapon."

August 25, 2011, 01:40 PM
I have one of these I use on my 9mm and 223 AR's. I have some videos on youtube of my 9mm in action. I love it and it works great. Virtually a select fire for only $350 and you don't need a $200 tax stamp. :D

I'm trying to get it to work on one of my 22LR AR's, but so far no luck. Not enough umph to make it work.

You can find my vid's by looking for my ID -steel609

James K
August 25, 2011, 05:14 PM
"It makes the anti-gun establishment madder than hornets and they can't do a darn thing about it."

Well, yes, they can try to ban semi-autos, and use things like that to "prove" that criminals convert them to machineguns. And netting a retired cop would really show that BATFE is "doing its job, but more laws are needed..."


August 26, 2011, 03:43 PM
I liked mine so much, I bought another:D

August 27, 2011, 10:41 AM
I might have to build an AR just for that stock! Very tempted, even though I already have an AC556. I wish they'd make on for the Sig 556 (not sure if it's possible).