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James K
June 14, 2000, 06:20 PM
Apparently something went wrong in transferring the query to this forum, so I will open a new topic.

Nestor, we will need a little more info on the top break S&W. There were several models.

The M&P (there was no Model 10 designation in those days) was sent to Britain in 1941-1942 as Lend Lease. Lend Lease guns were marked as U.S. Property (since one can't lend what one does not own). Apparently that one was passed on to India at sometime or other and was subject to Factory Repair at the Rifle Factory Ishapore, all as you suspected. (Ishapore used "FR" for the same rebuild process that the British called "Factory Thorough Repair" or "FTR".)

The "book" price on those is only about $250, but there has been a fair amount of collector interest lately and I think it might bring a little more. In this case, the FR mark might enhance the value.


Mal H
June 14, 2000, 06:57 PM
Thanks for the heads up Jim. We've had some odd BB behavior recently.

Here is a link to the original question:
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Nestor Rivera
June 15, 2000, 09:24 AM
S&W more INFO (thanks for answering)

SN 875xxx
Has Ord Bomb
has cartuche with (N or W) (b or B) on butt by SN
has P stamped under SN
with Lanyard Ring
Apperers to have always been blued
cylinder changed and re-serialed, old serial struck

Break Top
3rd Series Double action (pretty sure)
SN 258xxx
barrel has been bobbed to just over 3in has biscut cut for new front blade & reblued (very well done but NOT orgianl)

Any additional help would be appriceiated.

James K
June 15, 2000, 10:16 PM
Hi, Nestor,

If that S&W breaktop is a double action hammer gun it is what is called the Third Model, made from 1884 to 1895. There should be only one set of cylinder grooves (the norm today, but the previous models had two). The gun came with 3 1/4, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10 inch barrels.

Value is not high, primarily because so many were made (115,000 for the Second Model alone). One in new condition might bring over $300, but in average condition they run about $150.

The additional markings on the M&P were apparently put on by either the British or the Indians. I have no idea what they mean, but perhaps someone else can help.


[This message has been edited by Jim Keenan (edited June 15, 2000).]

Nestor Rivera
June 16, 2000, 02:02 PM
Thanks ALL