View Full Version : Trying to ID BP rifle

February 15, 2011, 11:55 PM
So I'm going through the gun safe tonight cleaning some of the toys and I come across this black powder rifle my g/f inherited. I've never really taken a look at it til now, and well... was curious if anyone can actually ID it. On the barrel it reads Ardesa Spain Black Powder Only 50 cal.

I was able to find Ardesa firearms website HERE (http://www.ardesa.com/en/index.php) but can't really seem to find the exact model. I'm not really sure on the age of the rifle, but I'd say easily 20 years old??? :confused:

It looks like a mixture of a couple of their Side Lock Rifles... but just trying to figure out what it really is. Any help?

I've attached some pics.

February 16, 2011, 12:30 AM
That is their Frontier model. As an Ardesa distributor, Traditions recently reintroduced that same model after being discontinued in the U.S. for about a decade or more. And Traditions also offers it in kit form. It does look like they changed the rear sight on the new model.


February 16, 2011, 12:38 AM
Definitely looks like the right model... I need to find out more about the age being as the ram rod on mine doesn't seem to fit that new model, but the rest is dead on.

Thanks ;)

February 16, 2011, 01:56 PM
If you remove the barrel you will probably find a set of proof marks which will help identify and date the rifle. Spanish proof marks will be a line of figures like:
The first two characters - a coat of arms and then three circles - identify the Spanish proof house, next is the test information - in this case it means 70,000 kilopascals per square centimeter - and the last item is a two date code for the year the proof test was done - I2 meaning 1989 in this case. Here's the 'decoder ring' for the proof dates: