View Full Version : AR-15 Charging handle roll pin?

November 21, 2010, 04:40 AM
Hey guys. I wanted to pick up one of those badger tactical charging handle latch upgrades for my Bushmaster. I have a Leupold scope on it and it is blocking the current latch, so I want this new one. However, it would be pointless to purchase it seems as I cant get my darn pin out. =( I tried a 1/16 Allen key and that is too big for the hole, a smaller one fits though, but that sucker will not budge. Hammer taps, pressure, nothing seems to work. Does anyone have any ideas or similar troubles and or solutions? The new latch is only$20 and people say it is great, but if I had to buy a whole new charging handle for a stupid little pin...that's crazy.

Bartholomew Roberts
November 21, 2010, 09:08 AM
No idea on how to help remove the roll pin; but you should buy some spares if you are going to use the Badger latch. The latch will let you put a lot more stress on the roll pin than it is designed to handle.

November 21, 2010, 09:33 AM
Unless you just enjoy screwing up guns, use the correct tool. An allen wrench is not a punch. Roll pin punches are available from Brownells. Here endeth the lesson. Goatwhiskers the Elder

November 21, 2010, 11:25 AM
I vote getting a set of roll pin punches and using the right one. The punch set makes life a heck of a lot easier at to roll pins.

Having said that, I'd get a new charging handle with latch. Keeping the non-latch charging handle around for dry firing.

When coaching or teaching another to shoot, I like to get them in position and have them dry fire while I work the bolt for them. Easy to do with a Garand or M14 by just pushing the op rod back with the palm of your hand, but not with an AR because of the latch.

Just slipping a not latch charging handle in, makes it a breeze for working on positions, NPA, sight alignment, trigger control and follow through.

November 21, 2010, 11:53 AM
I suggest getting a whole new charging handle with the latch already installed. That way you'll have a spare if you ever need it.

November 21, 2010, 12:04 PM
VLTOR BCM handles with various sized latches take the stress off the pin. Plus you will have a spare you should never need.

November 21, 2010, 01:58 PM
I watched this video before I installed my tac latch on my AR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7_F7If6YEQ I used a correctly sized punch to remove the old latch and then re-installed the pin using the brass hammer in my punch set. The whole install took ~5 minutes.

November 21, 2010, 05:42 PM
I finally got that darn pin out. Can you buy just replacement pins as mentioned before? Also, eventually I will probably get a new CH + extended latch, but as those go for around $70 and the latch itself goes for <$20, I'm going to do the latch for now. Also, for anyone with experience, do you know if the Gen 1 badger latch is better, or the Gen 2?

November 22, 2010, 01:56 PM
I prefer the Gen 2 for being a slimmer profile, and have one on my gun.

You can buy either Badger latch AND the roll pin from Bowers Tactical (www.bowerstactical.com)

November 22, 2010, 02:06 PM
Can you buy just replacement pins as mentioned before?

Roll pins are reusable.

November 22, 2010, 03:21 PM
The VLTOR/Bravo Company GUNFIGHTER charging handle (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCMGUNFIGHTER-Charging-Handle-s/123.htm) has an extended latch (multiple sizes available) and runs only $45. No point in spending the time retrofitting a $20 latch to a $12 handle that's only going to let go when you put repeated heavy stress on the latch.

November 22, 2010, 03:51 PM
Also... if you look around on Bravo's site, you can find the prototype tac charging handles for like $28... and they still fully warranty them should you break it. :cool:

November 23, 2010, 08:00 AM
Here ya go: